Never found them to be worth a shit myself. Tried them early on in life. Uncomfortable to work in and about as shitty as you can get against the elements. Everything about them is wrong for their intended use as far as I’m concerned. I see now that they are try’n to up their game a bit with some newer materials and designs, but they ain’t even close. Fuck Carhartt, they’ve done nothing for the working man, but take his money for inferior product year after year with no innovation in design or material.