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as are Pfizer, AZ, and Moderna.

There are interesting similarities between the manufacturer lables which I started to see in that first post I link: - J&J causes "SARS-CoV-2 spike (S) antigen" to be expressed by your cells. - Moderna causes "SARS-CoV-2 S antigen" to be expressed. Basically the same description here. - Moderna and Pfizer both describe their mRNA molecule as, "nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA)" I think anybody so motivated could find additional cases where there are precisely shared phrases between these documents. That would be interesting to me.

Following this chain of documentation some good questions I can't answer are: 1) Does the J&J DNA transcription yield the same, "nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA)" used by Pfizer/Moderna? 2) Does J&J cause the same molecule to be expressed by cells as moderna? If yes to moderna, is it the same as Pfizer too? 3) If J&J antigen expression is different from moderna, are the antigens successfully anchored to the cells, or do they enter the blood stream? 4) Is there biodistribution data available for J&J? Does the adenovirus vector spread beyond the injection site, or does it remain in the deltoid muscle?

You may use to query for injuries from J&J/Janssen. I would say that circulatory symptoms remote from the injection site (stroke, heart inflamation, blood clots in lung or leg) are good clues that the viral vector travels from the injection site or that the antigen leaks into the blood stream.

I would be interested if you find any information about what exactly happens when your cells take up this foreign DNA particle. My assumption is that you'll be told that it gets transcribed (split lengthwise) and that one (or both?) of those halves is an mRNA molecule used to instruct your cell to create the antigen. So, another question: 5) If the DNA molecule is transcribed into mRNA - what is the second half of the former DNA molecule? Does it do anything?

[Janssen injection label is in here...](https://poal.co/s/TheWuhanFlu/389774) as are Pfizer, AZ, and Moderna. [Linkage to J&J Janssen being a DNA injection.](https://poal.co/s/TellPoal/389855) There are interesting similarities between the manufacturer lables which I started to see in that first post I link: - J&J causes "SARS-CoV-2 spike (S) antigen" to be expressed by your cells. - Moderna causes "SARS-CoV-2 S antigen" to be expressed. Basically the same description here. - Moderna and Pfizer both describe their mRNA molecule as, "nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA)" I think anybody so motivated could find additional cases where there are precisely shared phrases between these documents. That would be interesting to me. Following this chain of documentation some good questions I can't answer are: 1) Does the J&J DNA transcription yield the same, "nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA)" used by Pfizer/Moderna? 2) Does J&J cause the same molecule to be expressed by cells as moderna? If yes to moderna, is it the same as Pfizer too? 3) If J&J antigen expression is different from moderna, are the antigens successfully anchored to the cells, or do they enter the blood stream? 4) Is there biodistribution data available for J&J? Does the adenovirus vector spread beyond the injection site, or does it remain in the deltoid muscle? You may use [VAERS](https://vaers.hhs.gov/) to query for injuries from J&J/Janssen. I would say that circulatory symptoms remote from the injection site (stroke, heart inflamation, blood clots in lung or leg) are good clues that the viral vector travels from the injection site or that the antigen leaks into the blood stream. I would be interested if you find any information about what exactly happens when your cells take up this foreign DNA particle. My assumption is that you'll be told that it gets transcribed (split lengthwise) and that one (or both?) of those halves is an mRNA molecule used to instruct your cell to create the antigen. So, another question: 5) If the DNA molecule is transcribed into mRNA - what is the second half of the former DNA molecule? Does it do anything?

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J&J has incidence of deep vein thrombosis, pulmonary thrombosis, foetal death in VAERS which to me is evidence that the antigen is not anchored to the cells, at least for some people.

So some people take these injections and don't have immediate problems. Some people have serious problems after taking these injections. So are there some people who express the antigen into the blood, and others who do not?

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