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Memorize this. This is your authority.

Ex Parte Milligan, 71 U.S. 2 (1866)

Neither the legislature nor any executive or judicial officer may disregard the provisions of the Constitution in case of emergency.

ANYONE who declares the suspension of Constitutionally guaranteed rights (to travel freely, peacefully assemble, earn a living, freely worship, etc.) AND OR attempts to enforce such a suspension within the 50 independent, sovereign, states of the United States of America is making war against our Constitution and therefore the people.

They violate their Constitutional oath and, thus, immediately forfeit their office and authority and their proclamations may be disregarded with impunity.

Memorize this. This is your authority. Ex Parte Milligan, 71 U.S. 2 (1866) Neither the legislature nor any executive or judicial officer may disregard the provisions of the Constitution in case of emergency. ANYONE who declares the suspension of Constitutionally guaranteed rights (to travel freely, peacefully assemble, earn a living, freely worship, etc.) AND OR attempts to enforce such a suspension within the 50 independent, sovereign, states of the United States of America is making war against our Constitution and therefore the people. They violate their Constitutional oath and, thus, immediately forfeit their office and authority and their proclamations may be disregarded with impunity.

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Obviously not. But what's your point?

My point is that even if you are right, you will still be convicted and imprisoned. You can be sit in your prison cell and think about how right you are for a long time.

That's not an overthrow of the rule of law

Saying it doesn't make it true. Laws mean nothing if they are merely optional and each person is free to choose whether they feel those laws apply to themselves or not.

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My point is that even if you are right, you will still be convicted and imprisoned. You can be sit in your prison cell and think about how right you are for a long time.

Of course. But as with the Declaration of Independence, some of us feel that moral justification for disregarding tyranny is important. I do want to be right when I exercise my liberties to whatever extent I'm able.

Saying it doesn't make it true. Laws mean nothing if they are merely optional and each person is free to choose whether they feel those laws apply to themselves or not.

You are conflating law and legal code. The difference is pertinent to this discussion. Laws mean nothing if they are passed outside the scope of the authority attempting to pass them, at that point they are not law at all, but just legal code meant to imprison you. It's not a matter of subjective opinion. It can be objectively determined if an authority is operating within it's originally granted scope and therefore if it's rulings carry the weight of law and are to be obeyed. Nothing about this is left up to each person to pick and choose separately what they will and will not obey? What is making you think that?

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You are conflating law and legal code.

Because they are one in the same.

Laws mean nothing if they are passed outside the scope of the authority attempting to pass them, at that point they are not law at all, but just legal code meant to imprison you.

In the end, that's what the law is. It's whatever rules you have to follow on pain of fine or imprisonment.

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You are only thinking under the umbrella of the existing "authority" and in that context your conclusions make sense. I'm focused on where the existing power derives its authority in the first place.