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NJ had more covid deaths per capita than any other state or country. 1 in every 378 people to date. Almost all of these died in April of last year. The spread was so much slower this fall and winter in the NYC area, I suppose because we are already approaching herd immunity.

US Deaths per year have been increasing by between 1 and 5 % for several years. 2020 increase was maybe a 19% increase. You can break out deaths per state and look at the relative of increase over several years compared to this last year. I feel is is reasonable to rely on total body count all causes and treat the relative increase all causes as largely due to covid. It should roughly match the covid numbers. If covid numbers exceed the relative increase youve definitley got something fishy. That doesnt seem to happen at the national level. But it might happen in some states.

You mean 1.9, right?

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Total US deaths in 2020 ~ 3.4 million.

Total US deaths in 2019 ~ 2.8million.

Total deaths rose an average of around 1 or 2 percent for the 5 years prior. One year there was a 5 % increase because of a bad flu season.

But last year it went way up. That was mostly covid. I dont know why thats hard for people to grasp. Either they are generating bodies out of thin air or a lot more people are dying. Presumably from covid as that what doctors are signing off on according to the death certificates.

Its possible there are some shennanigans with cause of death but I looked at the CDC numbers and heart attacks, cancer, strokes, etc are not way down as conspiracy theorists are asserting. Other causes of death are about the same as last year.

https://apnews.com/article/us-coronavirus-deaths-top-3-million-e2bc856b6ec45563b84ee2e87ae8d5e7

This article written 12/22/2020 cites 3.2 million is the likely threshold, where did the extra 200,000 come from? Is this (total death) normalized by population? Is this (total death) normalized by median age? The flu is down to a few dozen cases per week? Where did pneumonia go? Why are you unironically using the phrase 'conspiracy theorists?'

Given the average age of COVID deaths being right around the median life expectancy, the number of comorbidities, etc. the 2020 death stats should not look like 2019+COVID kill count unless the lockdown is causing other excess deaths.