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https://apnews.com/article/us-coronavirus-deaths-top-3-million-e2bc856b6ec45563b84ee2e87ae8d5e7

This article written 12/22/2020 cites 3.2 million is the likely threshold, where did the extra 200,000 come from? Is this (total death) normalized by population? Is this (total death) normalized by median age? The flu is down to a few dozen cases per week? Where did pneumonia go? Why are you unironically using the phrase 'conspiracy theorists?'

Given the average age of COVID deaths being right around the median life expectancy, the number of comorbidities, etc. the 2020 death stats should not look like 2019+COVID kill count unless the lockdown is causing other excess deaths.

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where did the extra 200,000 come from?

Because there is typically a one or two month lag time between time of death and time the CDC processes the death certificate and enters it in the system.

The CDC site states that at 8 weeks an average of 75% of the deaths have been reported from that date. So 25% of death reports are outstanding at 2 months. 200,000 is typically the number of people that die in a month so 200 thousand short at December 22 sounds about right.

Is this (total death) normalized by population? Is this (total death) normalized by median age?

No. It could be. Total deaths is just the raw number. The median age of americans or the population of america did not just jump 20% in 2020. Total deaths did.

Demographics did not radically shift in 12 months in such a way that you can explain away this large increase in deaths.

We dont every really know how much flu is around because nobody reports the flu unless they are hospitalized. Flu deaths which are normally around 2000 a month during winter are at 200.

90% drop in fatality. I assume because 1. Everybody is rushing to the doctor and getting an antiviral at the first hint of fever and 2. Social distancing, masks, social avoidance, increased hand washing has worked.... against the flu. Lol.

Flu is kinda weird. It spreads a lot in just one or two states every year, then goes to a new state that hasnt had it in a while the next year. It hops around the country. But this year it doesnt have a foothold in any state.

Pneumonia deaths are still high. Pneumonia deaths have not radically changed from 2019 if I remember correctly. Realize there are several codes that classify different types of pneumonia, like viral or bacterial. There are like 4 or 5 and they will roll them all up into a total but you can break them out if you know how to query the code.

Why are you unironically using the phrase 'conspiracy theorists?'

Because you believe there has been a conspiracy to jack up covid deaths massively and recategorize cause of death. And you believe that there was no significant increase in death and “it’s just the flu”, right? Something like that? Almost everyone on here does.

Im not trying to be insulting but you believe it was a conspiracy. I believe that aspects of this epidemic have been hoaxed, and the government has lied about many things regarding covid.

But I beleive that something like 400,000 people have died, totally unnecessarily. Of covid. I believe that the death rate went up 20%. Because of covid. I have been looking at their total death numbers and they seem relatively consistent with reported covid deaths.

Flu deaths have gone down from 10,000 a flu season to 1000 —that is a reasonable to me for reasons I already stated, and it does not begin to account for the additional 400,000 dead people.

9000 != 400,000