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Buy land with a year round fast flowing water source, and get hydropower as well as solar. Then you only need generator power for surge output.

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Velocity is not necessary for hydro. Its volume of water and elevation change. You'd be surprised by how much water and elevation change you need. Last time I remember doing the calcs, you'd need at least a 40' elevation drop with at least an 8" pipe to run a small house.

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There are small turbines that only require a 5 foot drop and can put out 15kW.

Sure. Kaplan's etc. Mostly a function of water flow but 15kw turbines need a min drop of 3meter.

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So scale up the pipe diameter and it scales down the drop, let's be honest here, there are pipes and impellers bigger than 8"

Plus you could setup multiple

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Nature is your limit! Not pipe size. I figured 8" would flow enough, easy enough to handle in remote locations, etc.... You'd be hard pressed to find a piece of property with that elevation change with that flow of water. You'd basically be buying a large waterfall, which would be costly...

My weir at 2m drop max theoretically generates 2-3kw varying with seasonal flow

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what if you had ten of them?

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That's gonna give you at least 10,000W continuous. That's a hell of a load for a small house unless you're trying to cook, heat, and heat water with electricity.

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Ever lose power in Florida for weeks on end? 10kw is not enough!! Haha

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I have [redacted] I really want to do this. Need to find resources on how to do it and make sure my commie ass governor won't fuck me for it.

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Just keep your mouth shut about it.

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If you can get a drop of say 15m across your property from where the water enters then you can generate power just by using a narrow diameter pipe. Easily hidden inlet. No civil works at all.

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There are laws against using hydro and dams, Patriot. (((They))) will shut it down. A deep well is best, build a shack around it so niggers don't know it's there.

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there are new designs that sit on the side of a creek and have wide soft-bladed turbines that allow fish to pass throufh.

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But it was invented by White people, so, illegal now :(

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History Channel has a great show called Mountain Men. One of the guys lives in NC and uses his river for electricity to run various things, even a saw mill. It s a great show to check out.

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I do enjoy the history channel, when it is accurate.

year round fast flowing water source

good luck putting a generator in the water. You'll learn about the federal waterways regulations really quick.

You don't need the turbines in the water. A turgo for example.

High head fast flow low volume turbines.

Can be anywhere on the property but of course the tailrace is a factor

you can't reroute any water without permission

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Make maple syrup that shit goes for $50 a gallon

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Look up the process on that, you might understand why it's $50 a gallon.

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Cook meth and sell it to the niggers

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Good answer

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If you've ever worked retail you'd know this is a bad idea.

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You have 100 acres that is not 100% sugar maple. You cut down 2 acres of non-maple each year to use for heat and sap into syrup.

See how the cycle works?

If you grew up making maple syrup you'd have a much better understanding.

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My old coworker produced pounds of pure maple syrup every year, their family had had been doing the maple thing for decades, candies and syrups, I wanna say they had a maple butter also....they had the whole cooking rig setup to produce tons of the shit......looked expensive as fuck. All the different colors they produced were grade A though

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and when the economy collapses we'll eat Christmas trees!

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But we will be alive to eat them. In the cities, there will be madness plus - no Christmas trees at all for them to eat.

I make a mean Christmas tree gumbo.

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I hear the secret ingredient is to leave the tencel uncut for that "stringy" feel.

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Hey, my secret recipe is not to be tampered with. Damn it! But yeah, you're right. Sniff sniff

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Nah id rather have 100 acres for just me. Ive given up on everyone.

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Pffft, lookit Captain Hollywood over there, with his dozen friends

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you mean 100,000 acres? 100 acres isn't shit. Just ask ranchers.

You can't defend and patrol 100,000 acres. A smaller reliably defendable territory is preferable to a large indefensible one.

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you dont need to patrol 100,000 acres you just patrol the 100 acres you live on... the rest is just a buffer so nobody wanders onto your property

A buffer you can't patrol quickly becomes someone else's property.

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lmfao ok general lead us to victory with your 0 years of military combat

It's fucking common sense. Even insects understand this shit.

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100 isn't much for a ranch, but there are thousands of 100 acre farms in WI.

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Ya, let's just come up with 10s of millions of dollars. I'm sure a lot of people on this site have that or the know how on tending to anything like that.

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I'm in, check out building houses with ICF (insulated concrete forms), use the same ICFs to build a hot tub or pool (heat the hot tub with pex tubing).

Then build a super tall hydroponic vertical farming with led grow lights. Then for the super ambitious amongst us you can build an aquaponics farm and also make some cool Koi ponds. Fill the ICf with cement, glue the outside, then attach a vapor barrier, glue again, and attach a plastic shield to capture the runoff to the french drain at the footings, then out to the a drainage area.

Then, when Toyota releases their solid state battery, use that as an off grid power source.

Where the heck do you find a wife around here?

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Probably not here ,even if your not religious try church. Never a bar

Aquaponics is a much better deal, because you can't guarantee you'll be able to secure the concentrated nutrients for hydroponics if the world goes to hell in a handbasket.

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The people who are carpenters can build a house using the perfect wall, or 500 year house plan

The "Perfect Wall" Concept The 500 year house? https://www.jlconline.com/how-to/the-perfect-wall-concept_o

Toyota's game-changing solid-state battery en route for 2021 debut Japan's government to join forces with industry to supercharge development https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Most-read-in-2020/Toyota-s-game-changing-solid-state-battery-en-route-for-2021-debut

We can be the Amish with all the technology. We can eventually out breed the surrounding area and buy up everything while working like beavers with no care to damn.

Also, those who are worried about the cold, check out net zero homes in Canada.

Brilliant DIY Off-Grid Water Heater Using a Rocket Stove – No Propane! https://youtu.be/B9BQGamXLMk

Off Grid Heating Prototype- Copper Coil Water Heater / Heat Exchanger / Radiant Heater https://youtu.be/zwqPiZ4Wgys

No hillbilly technology, also for radiant heating you can make a large cement block and let the sun heat during the winter when the sun doesn't rise as high, with a large window facing the south.

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The "perfect wall" is climate dependant. Polyiso insulation drops in R value in freezing temperatures. Replace that 3 inches with 4-5 inches of graphite infused styrofoam and it's way fucking better, maybe even cheaper.

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Insulation on the outside? I wonder how that's going to look. That means you aren't going to be running the cheap fiberglass stuff or that would get wet and moldy.

yeah, this 'exterior' insulation with bare studs showing on the inside (if the drywall is taken down, or none is put in), you have to do a bang up job putting up the exterior water barrier sheathing spot on.

Poly Wall® Home Stretch™ Peel 'N Stick/ICF Waterproofing Membrane high-density polyethylene (HDPE) looks and works the same as Butyl tape, but much wider and stretches all the way over the house so you have no air leaks in the house.

Remember to also have an air heat exchanger to have ventilation in the house, else everyone dies of breathing in each others farts all day

Perfect Wall Review - A system to Build an efficient house! https://youtu.be/hTwq-qUnr9I

This seems to be a good match for old houses where you only care about when the house only has a good foundation and can rip off all the siding

Exterior insulation retrofit: walls and unvented roof https://youtu.be/JmsosK2My6o

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Where the weather is good, land is more like 20k and acre. Unless you like snow and cold.

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I think that snow areas will be the safest place for whites

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Keeps the niggers away at least. Might be worth the trade-off.

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Look around. I wanted a retreat. It's 60 miles outside a major metropolitan area where I work and live. I got 10 acres for $40,000. Someone was behind on their property taxes and wanted out before they lost it to the bank. I bought it for 30% under market.

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I’m on five about 35 miles out. I’m good.

Edit: mine has two full houses and a shop.

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This is a larp thread anyway or our land project would have gotten more attention: /s/Helicoptarian/104429

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The Freedom Cell Network – Peer to peer groups organizing themselves (freedomcells.org)

Freedom Cells are peer to peer groups organizing themselves in a decentralized manner with the collective goal of asserting the sovereignty of group members through peaceful resistance and the creation of alternative institutions.

https://player.vimeo.com/video/475077954

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Freedom cells is socialism communal work. Fucking idiots.

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My family is a communistic dictatorship. I control 100% the means of production and choose who gets what. You know why this works? Because I love my family.

Communism doesn't work large scale because human corruption. The people who control the means get all the wealth of the society.

Make sense?

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Sounds less like communism and more like a dictatorship

Lol, looks like someone needs to wash their Jordan Peterson.

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Intriguing. How do I come to trust them enough to sign up?

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Do not grow pagan xmas trees. Unless you want to promote idolatry. Grow something else that isn't supporting the worship of the Phallic..

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