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First is the disinformation and demoralization campaign of "muh glowfags" that glowfags themselves regularly post. Second, which is easy to miss: The right isn't really the right. The broad 'populist' movement that composes the bulk of americans and our side, is really the Center or moderates.

What happens when one side is in an idealogical war with the rest of a nation?

The middle stays out of it.

We've been appealing to the wrong fucking people.

The moderates are fucking useless and co-opted.

They will ultimately side with the left, as they did with the mask issue, and everything else on a long enough timeline.

We need a coherent fucking set of organizing principles, or beliefs to put forward and that will be the acid test.

We reach out, and filter out anyone that doesn't fit the bill.

Essentially it comes down to having a ideologically unified core of highly motivated people that are first and foremost self-starters and high in contentiousness, people who are, as it were 'radically open minded', but otherwise moderate. People who are willing to entertain any idea.

First is the disinformation and demoralization campaign of "muh glowfags" that glowfags themselves regularly post. Second, which is easy to miss: The right isn't really the right. The broad 'populist' movement that composes the bulk of americans and our side, is **really** the **Center** or **moderates**. What happens when one side is in an idealogical war with the rest of a nation? The middle stays out of it. We've been appealing to the wrong fucking people. The moderates are fucking useless and co-opted. They will ultimately side with the left, as they did with the mask issue, and everything else on a long enough timeline. We need a coherent fucking set of organizing principles, or beliefs to put forward and that will be the acid test. We reach out, and filter out anyone that doesn't fit the bill. Essentially it comes down to having a ideologically unified core of highly motivated people that are first and foremost self-starters and high in contentiousness, people who are, as it were 'radically **open minded**', but otherwise moderate. People who are willing to entertain any idea.

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Both sides are controlled, the entire thing is bread and circuses to keep the masses divided. Nothing will change until we go after the elite behind the curtain.

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Both sides are controlled, the entire thing is bread and circuses to keep the masses divided.

Patience. Rome wasn't built, or destroyed, in a day.

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Oh yeah, I get that. I’ve said it a thousand times, it took them a hundred years to implement this, it won’t be undone over night.

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Liberals got together, burned shit down, killed people ... yet ... nothing will happen for them either.

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Liberals got together, burned shit down, killed people

Ok, thats a start. Plenty of people out there with grievances. But thats not ideology, thats simply anger.

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They were organized and still accomplished nothing.

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They were organized and still accomplished nothing

They accomplished exactly what they were paid to do.

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Here's the thing. the Internet is inherently insecure. People can still decieve you face to face, but it's a lot more work to infiltrate you, to insinuate yourself into a trust web if you make your plans outside the public eye, face to face, person to person.

doing it here, in the open, on a site that anyone can access, where there's no way of verifying anyone's bonafides, much less letting someone's good name vouch for another, is just asking for ass rape by the feds

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You're afraid. I get that. What is it gonna take before necessity overrides fear though?

Because thats the mindset you, and everyone else, need to be in right now.

You can organize online or offline. I'm not suggesting the best way. However I am suggesting figure out exactly, in easy to digest statements, what you are about, reach out, organize, and reject moderate 'conservatives'.

If they want to join, or if they seem interested, push them. Be pushy. Thats what our fucking opposition does. You don't have to tell them what to do, but you should demand they be willing to do something, could be anything ranging from marches to fucking flyers. Doesn't matter. As long as you all are on the same page.

Lay the ground work.

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It's not about fear, it's about trust. it's operational security.

Even in person, you can never be sure where someone's loyalties lie, you never know who might be turned, so a certain degree of risk is inevitable, you've got to take some chances.

But you're not hearing me, if you think it's just a matter of fear. There's no prudent way to organize online. You may as well plan it by email, and CC the FBI and the ATF on your group mails.

So, if someone's doing it right, it won't be very visible.

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I don't know why you're stuck on this "don't organize online" bit.

Organize however you like if you're gonna do a protest.

And yes, if someone's doing it right, it won't be very visible, is correct.