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Wow- Voat level discourse! Holy shit, the dopamine hit from reading your comment... I'm being serious. First time since Voat went down and I came over here, this is the first real discourse anyone has opened up with me. I sincerely thank you for engaging, unlike most of the other poalers.

Are you fucking kidding? Things can get ALOT worse. You need to get real. You’re a spoiled idiot if you think that.

I think you misread what I said- I said "Idk how much worse", meaning I do not know the extent of this "endgame" we appear to be approaching. I have a hell of an imagination, though...

What were trumpsters going to do, take the capitol militarily? They are 50 and have no training. Their only strength is that they are old and cute and a bunch of normies see them as relatively innocuous next to BLM which has terrorized the nation for a year. The capitol police look like thugs.

Eh, something like this: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/history/article148667224.html

Yes, I know that times are different. But the stakes have never been higher, and the entirety of the "Trumpers" as you call them should have been able to collectively achieve more than 24 untrained negroes with rifles. Hell, the pussy-hat wearing feminists from the "Women's March" made it further into the fucking Capitol building and sort of occupied it for a little bit. But the Trumpers, proud of their physicality and guns and former military service- didn't do anything except stand in fucking line like good little sheep.

But the jews have you so turned aroung that they have you second guessing every blow the right strikes as a pr loss.

Hold on- which blow has "the right" struck recently? And also, what is "the right" that we are talking about? Typically when I refer to "The right", I'm talking about White ACTUAL conservatives, possibly Christian. But using your definition of the right, what blows have they struck? What victories for conservatives in the USA have been won in the last 4 years? Name me 3 and I'll bow out on this, but I think you'll have trouble on that.

This struggle wont be won with a single strategy like full frontal military confrontation with the feds. That is stupid

Yeah, that seems to be the Qultist's fantasy of how this is all going to play out- that suddenly, the supposedly monolithic being they know as "the military" is going to swoop in and save the USA! That's how it happens in the movies, after all. Of course this is stupid.

You and I seem to be largely on the same page, and I sense that you're as angry as I am. This is also confusing and frustrating. We're all in the same sinking ship and we are bitterly arguing amongst ourselves as to whose fault it is. This is folly that ends with all of us face down in the water.

We have too many critics in this movement and zero leaders.

Wasn't Q or Trump supposed to be the leader? And what "movement" are we talking about, again? There are so many, (((they))) have been so consistently good at screwing with language, that nobody really knows where they stand anymore. What you call "the right" might mean "centrist losers" to someone else, you know? So is the movement "Americans Against Fraud"? AAF is a pretty cool acronym for freedom fighters....

The lack of leadership is truly why the boomers and younger generations are struggling with this. Anybody who comes out and says "I am a White nationalist, and i would like to lead you" is either a glownigger or immediately dismissed and memory holed (think someone like, Patrick Little). Nobody is willing to take on that scarlet letter of "racist" by becoming a "leader" for Whites, and most Whites would be afraid to openly associate themselves with such a group, because we've been conditioned since birth to believe that "White racial consciousness = bad, only brown people are allowed to be racially conscious".

For a while, I was thinking that a good martyr would be the spark that lit the fuse. Babbit could've been the one.... but after a quick scroll through her final tweets, she was clearly not motivated by patriotism or the desire for the USA's survival- she was motivated by getting attention, like most women. And she got shot in the neck for it.

How can we make a victim of tyranny into a martyr without owning the MSM? MSM cranks out martyrs for BLM and feminists by the dozen, because they control the information. They can spam stories about a drug addict dying while being arrested, but gloss over the murder of Cannon Hinnant.

It's all so tiresome. Writing this makes me miss Voat even more. Thanks again for the discussion, you help me to see new angles and get ideas I wouldn't have had without such discourse.

Wow- Voat level discourse! Holy shit, the dopamine hit from reading your comment... I'm being serious. First time since Voat went down and I came over here, this is the first *real discourse* anyone has opened up with me. I sincerely thank you for engaging, unlike most of the other poalers. >Are you fucking kidding? Things can get ALOT worse. You need to get real. You’re a spoiled idiot if you think that. I think you misread what I said- I said "Idk how much worse", meaning I do not know the extent of this "endgame" we appear to be approaching. I have a hell of an imagination, though... >What were trumpsters going to do, take the capitol militarily? They are 50 and have no training. Their only strength is that they are old and cute and a bunch of normies see them as relatively innocuous next to BLM which has terrorized the nation for a year. The capitol police look like thugs. Eh, something like this: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/history/article148667224.html Yes, I know that times are different. But the stakes have never been higher, and the entirety of the "Trumpers" as you call them should have been able to collectively achieve more than *24 untrained negroes with rifles.* Hell, the pussy-hat wearing feminists from the "Women's March" made it further into the fucking Capitol building and sort of occupied it for a little bit. But the Trumpers, proud of their physicality and guns and former military service- didn't do anything except stand in fucking line like good little sheep. >But the jews have you so turned aroung that they have you second guessing every blow the right strikes as a pr loss. Hold on- which blow has "the right" struck recently? And also, what is "the right" that we are talking about? Typically when I refer to "The right", I'm talking about **White ACTUAL conservatives, possibly Christian.** But using your definition of the right, what blows have they struck? What victories for conservatives in the USA have been won in the last 4 years? Name me 3 and I'll bow out on this, but I think you'll have trouble on that. >This struggle wont be won with a single strategy like full frontal military confrontation with the feds. That is stupid Yeah, that seems to be the Qultist's fantasy of how this is all going to play out- that suddenly, the supposedly monolithic being they know as "the military" is going to swoop in and save the USA! That's how it happens in the movies, after all. Of course this is stupid. You and I seem to be largely on the same page, and I sense that you're as angry as I am. This is also confusing and frustrating. We're all in the same sinking ship and we are bitterly arguing amongst ourselves as to whose fault it is. This is folly that ends with all of us face down in the water. >We have too many critics in this movement and zero leaders. Wasn't Q or Trump supposed to be the leader? And what "movement" are we talking about, again? There are so many, (((they))) have been so consistently good at screwing with language, that nobody really knows where they stand anymore. What you call "the right" might mean "centrist losers" to someone else, you know? So is the movement "Americans Against Fraud"? AAF is a pretty cool acronym for freedom fighters.... The lack of leadership is truly why the boomers and younger generations are struggling with this. Anybody who comes out and says "I am a White nationalist, and i would like to lead you" is either a glownigger or immediately dismissed and memory holed (think someone like, Patrick Little). Nobody is willing to take on that scarlet letter of "racist" by becoming a "leader" for Whites, and most Whites would be afraid to openly associate themselves with such a group, because we've been conditioned since birth to believe that "White racial consciousness = bad, only brown people are allowed to be racially conscious". For a while, I was thinking that a good martyr would be the spark that lit the fuse. Babbit could've been the one.... but after a quick scroll through her final tweets, she was clearly not motivated by patriotism or the desire for the USA's survival- she was motivated by *getting attention,* like most women. And she got shot in the neck for it. How can we make a victim of tyranny into a martyr without owning the MSM? MSM cranks out martyrs for BLM and feminists by the dozen, because they control the information. They can spam stories about a drug addict dying while being arrested, but gloss over the murder of Cannon Hinnant. It's all so tiresome. Writing this makes me miss Voat even more. Thanks again for the discussion, you help me to see new angles and get ideas I wouldn't have had without such discourse.

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but after a quick scroll through her final tweets, she was clearly not motivated by patriotism or the desire for the USA's surviva

For all you know the state changed her tweets after her death.

They did it with that black police officer that attacked his own police station.

Shits trivial for the state to change.

Believe nothing that you see.

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Im not going to debate with you the success of the trump demonstration.

The womens march and blm are 100% supported by the establishment. Those pussy bitches are all seiu fat cats living off gov largesse and basically paid marxists. They were bussed in by billionaires. They were still not as successful as the trumpers. The trumpers swarmed that capitol like locusts. I didn’t see anything to compare with those pictures in the Pussy Parade.

It takes a lot for law abiding whites to storm a government building like that. But you can’t appreciate the fact that the most accomodating passive group in the country got off their asses and did something truly rebellious and anti-establishment. No, it wasn’t rebellion for exactly the right reasons, or it wasn’t the right level of aggressiveness for a demonstration. Pick, pick, pick.

I see zoomers on this site and voat, other sites, saying boomers are lazy and never will do anything. They did something. Not zoomers. But zoomers are still bitchin and moaning.

wasn’t q or trump supposed to be the leader

Did you hear me? Too many critics. Let trump be a leader with broader appeal for blacks or latinos or whoever. If we win by pandering to black and latino men who hate faggotry an feminism, Im good with that.

Maintain a more ideological movement within a broader movement. If Trump accomplishes some of our aims, great. It will take time to bring normies over to the hard right anyway. Believe me, a lot of republicans are becoming more and more right wing.

Zoomer WNs here are so ideologically pure they have no hope of forming any sort of effective movement. They are what I call “binary ethnonats”. They forget that no one here started as an ethnonat, they were mostly civnat conservatives or libertarians who got red pilled on pol in the last 5 years or so. It eludes them that technologically backward boomers did not have that experience so they thing that they are especially clever and boomers are hopeless retards that can’t be turned. They can be. I know alot of boomers and normie republicans that are changing their minds on that shit.

Most of these trump supporters do not love blacks and jews— they are civnats when their country is 90% white because it still arguably makes sense at that point. But they are moving closer to fascism and ethnonationalism the more blacks and other minorities prove themselves to untrustworthy to maintain white standards. They are at various points along the continuum. You have to educate them, not insult them. Insulting qtards and boomers does not help us. I comment on the q forums sometimes and there are more than a few antisemites on there. That’s because voat et al. have started to rub off on them.

Babbit

Who cares if she was into herself? I don’t know anything about her. Look at George Floyd. Do you think the jews at BLM say, “but he was a shitty human being, we can’t get behind him” ? Im sure you can find more decent qualities about Ashli fuckin Babbit than GF.

If you are waiting for some ascetic monk who wears hair shirts and self flagellates when hes not punching communists, you may be waiting a long time. Everyone is going to disappoint you somehow. Pick the best faggot and get behind him. Trump wasn’t far right enough but he was often effective against the leftists and I think we will miss what he was good at. He was a bully for us.

At this point, this site is just a place where politically incorrect people come to call each other faggot and maybe share news stories and some gardening tips. Lets decide on some core aims that we can achieve, together on this site. Some aims that the trumpers can get behind as well. Lets agree to boost each others morale and organize a real movement here, ideologically and spiritually, even if we cant do too much planning here. Can we work toward agreement on some issues instead of tearing each other apart?

Im gen x, which makes me a functional boomer in certain circles, I know. I agree with alot of what the younger ethnonats are saying but they have no political will! They are too cynical to set foot outside the front door. The boomers are not the enemy. We simply cannot dick around anymore and the biggest problem I see is the morale issue. The disunity.

Im not going to debate with you the success of the trump demonstration. The womens march and blm are 100% supported by the establishment. Those pussy bitches are all seiu fat cats living off gov largesse and basically paid marxists. They were bussed in by billionaires. They were still not as successful as the trumpers. The trumpers swarmed that capitol like locusts. I didn’t see anything to compare with those pictures in the Pussy Parade. It takes a lot for law abiding whites to storm a government building like that. But you can’t appreciate the fact that the most accomodating passive group in the country got off their asses and did something truly rebellious and anti-establishment. No, it wasn’t rebellion for exactly the right reasons, or it wasn’t the right level of aggressiveness for a demonstration. Pick, pick, pick. I see zoomers on this site and voat, other sites, saying boomers are lazy and never will do anything. They did something. Not zoomers. But zoomers are still bitchin and moaning. >wasn’t q or trump supposed to be the leader Did you hear me? Too many critics. Let trump be a leader with broader appeal for blacks or latinos or whoever. If we win by pandering to black and latino men who hate faggotry an feminism, Im good with that. Maintain a more ideological movement within a broader movement. If Trump accomplishes some of our aims, great. It will take time to bring normies over to the hard right anyway. Believe me, a lot of republicans are becoming more and more right wing. Zoomer WNs here are so ideologically pure they have no hope of forming any sort of effective movement. They are what I call “binary ethnonats”. They forget that no one here started as an ethnonat, they were mostly civnat conservatives or libertarians who got red pilled on pol in the last 5 years or so. It eludes them that technologically backward boomers did not have that experience so they thing that *they* are especially clever and boomers are hopeless retards that can’t be turned. They can be. I know alot of boomers and normie republicans that are changing their minds on that shit. Most of these trump supporters do not love blacks and jews— they are civnats when their country is 90% white because it still arguably makes sense at that point. But they are moving closer to fascism and ethnonationalism the more blacks and other minorities prove themselves to untrustworthy to maintain white standards. They are at various points along the continuum. You have to educate them, not insult them. Insulting qtards and boomers does not help us. I comment on the q forums sometimes and there are more than a few antisemites on there. That’s because voat et al. have started to rub off on them. >Babbit Who cares if she was into herself? I don’t know anything about her. Look at George Floyd. Do you think the jews at BLM say, “but he was a shitty human being, we can’t get behind him” ? Im sure you can find more decent qualities about Ashli fuckin Babbit than GF. If you are waiting for some ascetic monk who wears hair shirts and self flagellates when hes not punching communists, you may be waiting a long time. Everyone is going to disappoint you somehow. Pick the best faggot and get behind him. Trump wasn’t far right enough but he was often effective against the leftists and I think we will miss what he was good at. He was a bully for us. At this point, this site is just a place where politically incorrect people come to call each other faggot and maybe share news stories and some gardening tips. Lets decide on some core aims that we can achieve, together on this site. Some aims that the trumpers can get behind as well. Lets agree to boost each others morale and organize a real movement here, ideologically and spiritually, even if we cant do too much planning here. Can we work toward agreement on some issues instead of tearing each other apart? Im gen x, which makes me a functional boomer in certain circles, I know. I agree with alot of what the younger ethnonats are saying but they have no political will! They are too cynical to set foot outside the front door. The boomers are not the enemy. We simply cannot dick around anymore and the biggest problem I see is the morale issue. The disunity.

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