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The Jews are going to ignite it all pretty soon. You should know that none of the (((leadership))) extant today in the West is unjewed. They're all satanic child raping fags. Even your state senators.

Either the Qtards are going to be executing you for forgetting to put up your Trumpberg portrait in your living room, or chancellor Biden is going to be passing state enforced homosexuality. Take your pick. It doesn't matter.

The root cause of all of this is the great desire of international Jewry to see to it that the antichrist, whom Mohamed (sallahu alayhi wasalam) said clearly will be a one-eyed Jew, lead the globe from false Israel.

The United States or anything united at all for that matter (even China), stands in their way.

They plan to rise up out of the ashes after raping every other people on Earth, just as the Jew led US of A did during WWII.

Don't take false heroes. The only men that are worth emulating are the Prophets, and the only entity worth your affection and kampf is the one true God that fabricated this existence from nothing.

The Jews are going to ignite it all pretty soon. You should know that none of the (((leadership))) extant today in the West is unjewed. They're all satanic child raping fags. Even your state senators. Either the Qtards are going to be executing you for forgetting to put up your Trumpberg portrait in your living room, or chancellor Biden is going to be passing state enforced homosexuality. Take your pick. It doesn't matter. The root cause of all of this is the great desire of international Jewry to see to it that the antichrist, whom Mohamed (sallahu alayhi wasalam) said clearly will be a one-eyed Jew, lead the globe from false Israel. The United States or anything united at all for that matter (even China), stands in their way. They plan to rise up out of the ashes after raping every other people on Earth, just as the Jew led US of A did during WWII. Don't take false heroes. The only men that are worth emulating are the Prophets, and the only entity worth your affection and kampf is the one true God that fabricated this existence from nothing.

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We both know full well that Jesus Christ was born exactly nine months after Annunciation.

@CHIRO @ARM

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Yes. But you're just moving the issue now. What day of this year more closely corresponds to the Annunciation? The one that is 365.25 X 2021, or the one that is 365.2425 X 2021?

Let me put it another way. We both believe Christ was born on December 25. That is, four days after the Winter Solstice. The Winter Solstice is an astronomically discernible day - the shortest day of the year.

So if Christ was born four days after the shortest day of Anno Domini 1, then would we not be more faithfully celebrating His birth in AD 2020 by celebrating it four days after the shortest day of Anno Domini 2020, rather than by celebrating it 17 days after the shortest day of Anno Domini 2020?

@ARM @Chiro

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My honest opinion is that God is more concerned that the Faithful are of like mind with each other, and at peace, than whether the days of observance align with certain celestial events.

These are important, don’t get me wrong. At some point, for example, the Church agreed to move to a Solar, rather than Lunar, calendar. Mere obstructionism isn’t a Traditionally defensible position.

The Lord gave us these heavenly bodies for signs and seasons, not as excuses to fight with one another.

As you can imagine, I’ve had plenty of opportunities in my life to fight over calendars :)

@ARM @PS

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My honest opinion is that God is more concerned that the Faithful are of like mind with each other, and at peace, than whether the days of observance align with certain celestial events.

These are important, don’t get me wrong. At some point, for example, the Church agreed to move to a Solar, rather than Lunar, calendar. Mere obstructionism isn’t a Traditionally defensible position.

The Lord gave us these heavenly bodies for signs and seasons, not as excuses to fight with one another.

As you can imagine, I’ve had plenty of opportunities in my life to fight over calendars :)

EDIT: I forgot to tag anybody in this so I copypasted it into CHIRO’s comment.

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My honest opinion is that God is more concerned that the Faithful are of like mind with each other, and at peace, than whether the days of observance align with certain celestial events.

Obviously I agree universal agreement in doctrine is more important than universal consistency of ceremonial matters - although among ceremonial matters, dates seem high on the list.

But as you also acknowledge, these things are important. It is true the Jews followed a lunar calendar. This perhaps made more sense under the Old Covenant, when only one people were under the law. With the New Covenant, and the entire world being expected to follow the law, a solar, rather than lunar, calendar seems to make more sense - a date relative to a solstice is more universally applicable than a lunar event (Aussies see the Man in the Moon upside down, and so have "reversed" phases, etc...such a mess). And so if we are going to follow a solar calendar, it seems best to implement one where "calendar drift" is as minimized as possible.

This is a big problem I have with the Orthodox (not to get polemic): they seem to have a tendency to reject good ideas or even doctrines simply by virtue of coming from the Catholic Church. I don't know how well you know Orthodox history, but I've heard (from a convert from Eastern Orthodoxy to Catholicism, no less (youtu.be)), that prior to the infallible declaration of the Immaculate Conception, the Orthodox were sympathetic to the idea, or outright believed it, but after the declaration it became something they opposed. Likewise with the Gregorian Calendar - it is an objectively a better option than the Julian calendar, but the Orthodox won't implement it "because it comes from Rome".

Anyway, our disagreements are far less severe than they are between ourselves and basically everyone else.

@Chiro @ARM