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Well presented arguments which largely make good sense.

However, I disagree. Mainly because I don't want to end up trapped in a communist shithole. California and Nevada were red states until recently and must be flipped back to their rightful colors! Invade and liberate us if necessary, pls!

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Perhaps the more red parts deserve to become their own states.

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Perhaps.

But imposing our rule on the commies would be better still.

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Crab mentality. That's why secession never happens when it secession really should be a very very frequent occurrence.

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I have to admit it would feel good.

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Have you read People's Republic (amazon.com) yet?

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I haven't, but it sounds nice.

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I recommend all three books in the series.

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Didn’t work too well for the south.

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This country's birth was a secessionist movement. I don't think the Civil War is the ultimate secession movement.

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They attacked a federal facility. Until they did that Abe said publicly that he was going to let them go.

So far the precedent is only that you can't secede and then take over military bases. Precedent on just seceding doesn't exist.