I think Mike is missing part of the bigger picture. Men worked to attract a mate or support a family. With the dating world as fucked up as it is and with divorce rates as they are, more and more men are saying why bother.
Go to church: still lots of great wives to be had. Sure, standard church drama. But the pastors and church leaders can sometimes act as match makers and connect two people. And which the relationship goes south (which it will for young people), they can also give counsel and advice to help mend. Sometimes, what the men need to hear is best from their local church leader who has known them for years. For example, "John, put the damn porn away. Stop watching so much porn. Put a bit more effort into romancing your wife. Jill, tone down the negativity and bring more love to your home as the Lord taught. Watch as your seemingly very big problems disappear and you love and appreciate each other, again."
Pretty common early couple argument I've seen, lately. Dudes with their porn and women with the incessant negativity (I blame social media for worsening this).
It's mostly old people and their grandkids at my church. And a few lone young men. These great potential wives at church you speak of... they ain't at mine. I'm not looking for one, but I have certainly taken note this because of all of the talk around here about finding a partner at church. I feel safe to assume church just isn't popular with young women these days. Just go to church and find a wife they say... yeah buddy get in line. The demand vastly outweighs the almost nonexistent supply.
You have to move around and even compromise with your beliefs a bit to find livelier and younger crowds. What is most important is being married, having children, and teaching the next generation your high level of morals (while keeping an eye single to the Glory of God, of course). If you have to slightly change your believes, but still remain as a good standing Christian, that compromise may be worth it.
Last church I went to, half were very young, beautiful. The men were handsome and active, too. Plenty for both sexes to choose potential partners. Imagine that: young, righteous, people are attractive.
Yeah, idk. I have a couple of girls I see, one pretty steadily but I have no interest in getting married or living with a woman again. I feel for the young guys who might want a family. Everything is a mess for them.
Oh, yes, I remember when you told me this (on the poal chat). Can't change your mind, either. I was near where you were after my last SHITTY relationship. She really tried to come after my money when I said I didn't want to be with her, anymore. Made me learn a hard lesson and I think prenups are in my future.
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