No I don't agree. And any attempt to purposefully misconstrue my position will be regarded as shill-speak. As this appears to be your leaning in how you position your argument. Stop it. Read my other comments here. My position is open and shut. There isn't room to misunderstand my position and honestly, it's the only reasonable position offered which addresses the actual intent and merit. You're trying to make this about abortion. It has nothing to do with abortion and is dishonest to attempt to force it into context. This is strictly about vehicle occupancy and the theoretical or actual removal of a vehicle from the road to reduce congestion. It's not about abortion or when life begins - or acknowledgment of either. If you choose to squint to see it another way, that's only your failing, not mine. There is literally no way a developing fetus can sanely travel in another vehicle, distinct from that of its mother. Therefore her pregnancy has zero bearing on occupancy and traffic. Period. End of discussion. As I said, this is a simple issue and she's retarded.