The top one is genetically ingrained as the winning strategy because historically that guy would have kids with all those women. Like a polygamist without the incest. We need to challenge that with the question "how many kids does he have?". That will wake up some people while others will expose themselves as sheep by challenging that with something like "not everyone wants kids". To which you can reply with something like "a mans value is calculated by what he does for the world plus what his progeny does. A man without kids is doomed to be a looser in the grand scheme".