Everytime I say something like this I'm met with "Jews are whites. If Jews were their own race why don't they have their own category in races on things like job applications? Their only choice is to select white unless they're mixed with a different race and would prefer to put themselves down as that race. Being born Jewish is no different than being born from any other religion. People can convert to being Jewish just like any other religion, and people can stop being Jewish whenever they want" I just die inside when I hear this shit cuz like what am I going to say in that conversation that's going to change their mind