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Okay so I think I understand the gist of what he is getting at and it does hold roughly true.
There are a few problems with the proposition:
1) All humans operate this way. This has little to do with programming and everything with being a social animal.
We have done experiments to show this dramatically, there are videos on youtube. If you want to see a dramatic example of the difference between how our brains are engineered vs other animals look for videos on chimpanzee / human high compliance experiments.
The difference between humans and chimps is a stark one. Chimps are far more independent than us and can reason through various problems specifically designed for their cognitive design far far far quicker than we can. Humans on the other hand are HIGHLY HIGHLY COMPLIANT. Somewhere in our evolutionary past we traded away high levels of cognitive independence for high levels of social compliance because our survival strategy started to favour groups that had high abilities for collaboration.
All that he is saying is that we are a highly collaborative species and our brains are designed to be weakly independent highly submissive to the social requirements of the group. This is what allows us to build technology and civilizations and chimps still live in the forrest and play genocide wars with competing groups for survival.
2) When he says " you cannot talk to these brainwashed people " ... well that kind of misses the point. Humans don't have conversations. We have complicated social rituals that are primarily centered around negotiating temporary and permanent alliances with various groups of humans in order to exchange the labour of our alliance for the resources of the group. Every conversation is a kind of trade, very frew conversations happen where there is just a pure exchange of information where any actual data processing happens.
It's even worse than that, when we have conversation, we almost never actually process the information on the spot. Instead we store it and walk around with it for a while and eventually figure out how or if to integrate it into the database sitting in our head.
So, no, you aren't going to change anyones mind in a conversation. Partially because of the economics of thought. Partially because we are a highly compliant species. But probably also because you need high group cohesion during times of war. You cannot go to war if your troops are independently minded, you can only go to war if everyone in the group can be brainwashed into a singular direction because the reality is most of them are going to die. We come from those that survived these wars and who passed on their cognitive abilities to integrate into war parties.
3) He fails to mention that in a highly compliant species, those that control the structures that individuals finds them selves in will control the alliance / belief systems of those in that system.
We may not be able to control / change what people think in a conversation, but you can control the landscape of information people are surrounded by and people will reflect those beliefs.
This is how advertising and propaganda works. Build a gilded cage for the animal and surround it with consistent messaging and you can get the animal to do anything you want.
It's pretty straight forward.
4) This is why places like this exist and this is why people on facebook believe what they believe. Everyone here got yanked out of the matrix in their own way, but we are here because we control the messaging and framing and it suits our needs.
Anyone whose brain is calibrated to a set of social expectations that you find on Facebook will find it difficult to unplug because it takes time and a bit of work.
But, it can be done. This is why the left is fighting so hard to gain institutional control, because they know institutional control means you control the messaging which means you control what people believe.
I'm not sure if he is lying, but it sure feels like he is putting english on the cueball, it's not like this is new knowledge. Civilization has been playing these games for 50 000 years.
Okay so I think I understand the gist of what he is getting at and it does hold roughly true.
There are a few problems with the proposition:
1) All humans operate this way. This has little to do with programming and everything with being a social animal.
We have done experiments to show this dramatically, there are videos on youtube. If you want to see a dramatic example of the difference between how our brains are engineered vs other animals look for videos on chimpanzee / human high compliance experiments.
The difference between humans and chimps is a stark one. Chimps are far more independent than us and can reason through various problems specifically designed for their cognitive design far far far quicker than we can. Humans on the other hand are HIGHLY HIGHLY COMPLIANT. Somewhere in our evolutionary past we traded away high levels of cognitive independence for high levels of social compliance because our survival strategy started to favour groups that had high abilities for collaboration.
All that he is saying is that we are a highly collaborative species and our brains are designed to be weakly independent highly submissive to the social requirements of the group. This is what allows us to build technology and civilizations and chimps still live in the forrest and play genocide wars with competing groups for survival.
2) When he says " you cannot talk to these brainwashed people " ... well that kind of misses the point. Humans don't have conversations. We have complicated social rituals that are primarily centered around negotiating temporary and permanent alliances with various groups of humans in order to exchange the labour of our alliance for the resources of the group. Every conversation is a kind of trade, very frew conversations happen where there is just a pure exchange of information where any actual data processing happens.
It's even worse than that, when we have conversation, we almost never actually process the information on the spot. Instead we store it and walk around with it for a while and eventually figure out how or if to integrate it into the database sitting in our head.
So, no, you aren't going to change anyones mind in a conversation. Partially because of the economics of thought. Partially because we are a highly compliant species. But probably also because you need high group cohesion during times of war. You cannot go to war if your troops are independently minded, you can only go to war if everyone in the group can be brainwashed into a singular direction because the reality is most of them are going to die. We come from those that survived these wars and who passed on their cognitive abilities to integrate into war parties.
3) He fails to mention that in a highly compliant species, those that control the structures that individuals finds them selves in will control the alliance / belief systems of those in that system.
We may not be able to control / change what people think in a conversation, but you can control the landscape of information people are surrounded by and people will reflect those beliefs.
This is how advertising and propaganda works. Build a gilded cage for the animal and surround it with consistent messaging and you can get the animal to do anything you want.
It's pretty straight forward.
4) This is why places like this exist and this is why people on facebook believe what they believe. Everyone here got yanked out of the matrix in their own way, but we are here because we control the messaging and framing and it suits our needs.
Anyone whose brain is calibrated to a set of social expectations that you find on Facebook will find it difficult to unplug because it takes time and a bit of work.
But, it can be done. This is why the left is fighting so hard to gain institutional control, because they know institutional control means you control the messaging which means you control what people believe.
I'm not sure if he is lying, but it sure feels like he is putting english on the cueball, it's not like this is new knowledge. Civilization has been playing these games for 50 000 years.
They use cult techniques, which were designed over time through trial and error to optimize the manufacture and maintenance of compliance, which is something a lot of people miss. These are cultists we are dealing with, they aren't stupid or irrational, but they've got minds that have been carefully manipulated to think in a certain way. The same techniques also exist in abusive relationships, which is why the relationship of Whites to every race (even their own) very much resembles that seen in an abusive relationship.
They use cult techniques, which were designed over time through trial and error to optimize the manufacture and maintenance of compliance, which is something a lot of people miss.
These are cultists we are dealing with, they aren't stupid or irrational, but they've got minds that have been carefully manipulated to think in a certain way.
The same techniques also exist in abusive relationships, which is why the relationship of Whites to every race (even their own) very much resembles that seen in an abusive relationship.
I think you are over analyzing his message and it needs to be taken in context with his whole warning of the steps to marxism.
I think you are over analyzing his message and it needs to be taken in context with his whole warning of the steps to marxism.
That was well written and enjoyable to read.
That was well written and enjoyable to read.
I'm only commenting this because the amount of work in this write up deserves to be spot on. I wouldn't be surprised if spellcheck is to blame but, it's gilded cage not guilded.
I'm only commenting this because the amount of work in this write up deserves to be spot on. I wouldn't be surprised if spellcheck is to blame but, it's gilded cage not guilded.
Oh, heh, fixed. Thank you kindly.
Oh, heh, fixed. Thank you kindly.
Are you not very familiar with his interviews? Your response was well written and well thought out but managed to take his words out of context.
He was specifically addressing the demoralization initiative that is necessary to cause societal collapse.
Props for being woke on a 50,000 year timeline though.
Are you not very familiar with his interviews? Your response was well written and well thought out but managed to take his words out of context.
He was specifically addressing the demoralization initiative that is necessary to cause societal collapse.
Props for being woke on a 50,000 year timeline though.
I thought I saw all of them. Can you write up either what I missed or what I may not be remembering?
I thought I saw all of them. Can you write up either what I missed or what I may not be remembering?
I didn’t mean for my response to sound quite so snarky. To answer the question that was in my mind; you are claiming that your comments address the whole body of his statements and not this one meme taken out of context. I will re-read all of this tomorrow with that in mind. Thank you for the reply.
I didn’t mean for my response to sound quite so snarky. To answer the question that was in my mind; you are claiming that your comments address the whole body of his statements and not this one meme taken out of context. I will re-read all of this tomorrow with that in mind. Thank you for the reply.
Great thoughts.
As to this guy, you have to listen to his whole video about how the Jewish soviet communist party was planning to take over the west. Mostly succeeded.
Great thoughts.
As to this guy, you have to listen to his whole video about how the Jewish soviet communist party was planning to take over the west. Mostly succeeded.
" It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." Mark Twain
" It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." Mark Twain
This is actually everyone around me. Family, friends, colleagues. No matter what I say they only believe it if it comes from the electric jew.
This is actually everyone around me. Family, friends, colleagues. No matter what I say they only believe it if it comes from the electric jew.
Have faith: after nearly a decade of being the conspiracy lunatic in the family, some family members are starting to come around...
Have faith: after nearly a decade of being the conspiracy lunatic in the family, some family members are starting to come around...
It took me awhile to realize he means "lack of moral-ized" and not "demoralized" in the military combat sense.
It took me awhile to realize he means "lack of moral-ized" and not "demoralized" in the military combat sense.
Can you expand on this? I'm not aware of the difference.
Can you expand on this? I'm not aware of the difference.
Demoralization always meant to take away someone's morale, not their morals.
Demoralization always meant to take away someone's morale, not their morals.
Ah okay thanks.
Ah okay thanks.
Crunchy, he is referring to the radical transformation of societal values in order to undermine a society. Look at how those who espouse the progressive radical agenda hate this country, and how degenerate this nation has become. There is no convincing them otherwise, even if you present them with irrefutable evidence to the contrary. Also, it needs to be pointed out that one of the goals of “active measures”, or demoralization, is to present the American people with so much conflicting information that they cannot come to a sensible conclusion about anything...yeah, that ship has landed, for sure...
Crunchy, he is referring to the radical transformation of societal values in order to undermine a society. Look at how those who espouse the progressive radical agenda hate this country, and how degenerate this nation has become. There is no convincing them otherwise, even if you present them with irrefutable evidence to the contrary. Also, it needs to be pointed out that one of the goals of “active measures”, or demoralization, is to present the American people with so much conflicting information that they cannot come to a sensible conclusion about anything...yeah, that ship has landed, for sure...
Yea it took me a bit as well. Basically, if you were raised to be a degenerate dick sucking faggot, someone trying to convince you that the straight homogenous nuclear family is the ideal is going to have a really hard time.
Yea it took me a bit as well. Basically, if you were raised to be a degenerate dick sucking faggot, someone trying to convince you that the straight homogenous nuclear family is the ideal is going to have a really hard time.
dick sucking faggot
really hard time
Heh.
>dick sucking faggot
>really hard time
Heh.
Wait, are we sure about this? How has this not come up before?
It never fully made sense to me because I assumed he was using it the normal way.
Wait, are we sure about this? How has this not come up before?
It never fully made sense to me because I assumed he was using it the normal way.
It wouldn't make sense in the context he's using it.
It wouldn't make sense in the context he's using it.
> "Honoring one's father and mother does not involve financially supporting their every fear and whim. Sometimes it means keeping your mouth shut. Sometimes it means speaking out. Sometimes it means helping them out, and sometimes it means permitting them to experience the consequences of their decisions." — "Vox Day" (voxday.blogspot.com)
>> *"Honoring one's father and mother does not involve financially supporting their every fear and whim. Sometimes it means keeping your mouth shut. Sometimes it means speaking out. Sometimes it means helping them out, and sometimes it means permitting them to experience the consequences of their decisions."*
— ["Vox Day"](https://voxday.blogspot.com/2021/02/let-boomers-boom.html)
I've been posting this video for close to 6 years. It's sad more people don't get it when they see it.
I've been posting this video for close to 6 years. It's sad more people don't get it when they see it.
I've seen this picture before but didn't know anything about a video. Can you point me in the right direction?
I've seen this picture before but didn't know anything about a video. Can you point me in the right direction?
Just search for Yuri interview
Just search for Yuri interview
Gladly, friend! https://youtu.be/TEefbbApuaE
Gladly, friend! https://youtu.be/TEefbbApuaE
Thanks
Thanks
They are irredeemable.
They are irredeemable.
Case in point: Try to convince any given person that the functional unit of society is the family, and that the world is divided along racial/ethnic lines. It's obvious if you merely glance at history, yet to play to the strengths of the species is now heretical.
If you're European, that is.
Case in point: Try to convince any given person that the functional unit of society is the family, and that the world is divided along racial/ethnic lines. It's obvious if you merely glance at history, yet to play to the strengths of the species is now heretical.
If you're European, that is.
Demoralised = loss of morals not morale.
Don't confuse his meaning
Demoralised = loss of morals not morale.
Don't confuse his meaning
Looks familiar
Looks familiar
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