> Cherrypicked? From my original statement? Cherrypicked from history. You're only counting internal communist subversion which had already mostly been suppressed by other groups. There's also the issue of your sample size: Fascism and national socialism only had one opportunity to succeed or fail each. Your conclusion is like saying coins always land tails up because that's how it worked that time I tried flipping one. >I'm not saying fascism or national socialism are the ideal social form, merely they are good and proven medicines for red fever and that we should be figuring out a prescription that works for america going forward. Eh... I'd take them over what we have now that's for sure. It's just that looking back through history, whenever you accept an emperor and give him universal power to fix all your problems it's pretty much guaranteed decline from there. There are far more caesars than there are cincinnati. The Romans started out as a proud independent people, each of whom considered himself personally responsible for the defence and advancement of his society. By the time the emperors were done with them, they were tax cattle welcoming the invaders in because the germans didn't milk them as hard. >National socialism as it was expressed in europe was tailored for each nation in europe which had it, German national socialism wouldn't fit america, we need to be the tailors for any ideology, the same with fascism, Here's the problem with that: natsoc and fascism aren't some kind of political blank cheque you can mould to whatever you like. They're probably the best defined political ideologies in history. It sounds more like you want a general ethno-nationalist movement. >in truth America might accept an emperor before a fuhrer for all the difference such distinctions are worth, the work ahead of that date is in admitting our involvement in WW2 was a mistake, and to scorn a hundred years of so called progress for what it really was, kike subversion to profit bankers, speculators, and investors and rob working men of their lives for barely tenable wages. Yes. No matter what happens there's a century of propaganda to undo. That won't be easy. >Our broken society must be re-engineered. Agreed