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I was thinking about how to think about strategic divestment. Right now, I am starting to visualize crypto as the new bank / store of value, however from a risk management perspective I am thinking of it as a diversify according to risk tolerence.

In other words, I won't be putting all my savings in crypto but moving value in and out as I get a better understanding of current and future risk as the real world politics develop.

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you have more ascending to do. Fuck crypto, its only an evolution of beast system. They will/do control it & exploit it just as they do with the fiat generation.

The root of the problem is not 'what' means of currency you use, but 'that' you use currency.

Understand that you already have maximum value (ie- your life) and that everything else which detracts from maintaining/improving it represents loss; including futile attempts to 'make money' in the exploiitation idolotry systems they create; be it fiat or crypto or precious metals. Paper, private keys, and shiny coins do not add value to your life - instead they waste your energy;mentally and physically. Consent to use them in exchange for what you need represnets consent to the authority controlling them; the third party who benefits - in the case of fiat, the government printing it. In the case of crypto; the (((miners))) who mine it or the energy cartel who the miners pay (or in the case of Monero's unaccountable blockchain presumably the CIA or Mossad or whoever may have set that chain up in the first place - or who hijacked it after the fact).

And by the way, you notice how 'both generations' of money: fiat and crypto are co-existing at the same time? As such, the same elite can simply print money to buy crypto. Since 'everyone has a price'. Given this magic wand capability, how do you know 90% of all crypto is not already in the hands of a Few? How does believing and using crypto benefit you and not them ?

Instead, acknowledge that the world has unlimited resources/potential for you but it was not designed to give it all to you on a silver platter; the world has everything everyone needs just not what everyone wants. Conveniently we are trained to 'want' everything from dopamine hits to 'systems that make our lives easier' ie- via the currencies and governments that enslave us. Tricking us to want everything, while ignoring our true needs & purpose, allows them to inflict genocide by our own hands; the karma is on us if we consent which of course most do.

The next generation of money is not 'money' at all, it is a rejection of cult behavior they perpetuate upon us from all directions; recognition of your own individual power which emmanates from within and living based on the needs & care of the greatest token of value you already have; the temporary body & mind you've been given which is clearly designed to advance the blood which flows within it to continue the flow further. It seems that all belief systems, including the most powerful one that is 'money' is directed at fooling us into ignoring this gift; and thus stopping the flow of blood; ie- a great energy force you have which otherwise represents power they don't. They thus want you to fail, they want your bloodline to fizzle out with you jerking off to the things that money buys and as an insurance policy for those that fail at acquring the drug of money they have a free version ie- porn, fast/cheap food and government handouts to cater to all 'classes' on the human specrum such that the self-inflicted genocide carries out either way.

you have more ascending to do. Fuck crypto, its only an evolution of beast system. They will/do control it & exploit it just as they do with the fiat generation. The root of the problem is not 'what' means of currency you use, but 'that' you use currency. Understand that you already have maximum value (ie- your life) and that everything else which detracts from maintaining/improving it represents loss; including futile attempts to 'make money' in the exploiitation idolotry systems they create; be it fiat or crypto or precious metals. Paper, private keys, and shiny coins do not add value to your life - instead they waste your energy;mentally and physically. Consent to use them in exchange for what you need represnets consent to the authority controlling them; the third party who benefits - in the case of fiat, the government printing it. In the case of crypto; the (((miners))) who mine it or the energy cartel who the miners pay (or in the case of Monero's unaccountable blockchain presumably the CIA or Mossad or whoever may have set that chain up in the first place - or who hijacked it after the fact). And by the way, you notice how 'both generations' of money: fiat and crypto are co-existing at the same time? As such, the same elite can simply print money to buy crypto. Since 'everyone has a price'. Given this magic wand capability, how do you know 90% of all crypto is not already in the hands of a Few? How does believing and using crypto benefit you and not them ? Instead, acknowledge that the world has unlimited resources/potential for you but it was not designed to give it all to you on a silver platter; the world has everything everyone needs just not what everyone wants. Conveniently we are trained to 'want' everything from dopamine hits to 'systems that make our lives easier' ie- via the currencies and governments that enslave us. Tricking us to want everything, while ignoring our true needs & purpose, allows them to inflict genocide by our own hands; the karma is on us if we consent which of course most do. The next generation of money is not 'money' at all, it is a rejection of cult behavior they perpetuate upon us from all directions; recognition of your own individual power which emmanates from within and living based on the needs & care of the greatest token of value you already have; the temporary body & mind you've been given which is clearly designed to advance the blood which flows within it to continue the flow further. It seems that all belief systems, including the most powerful one that is 'money' is directed at fooling us into ignoring this gift; and thus stopping the flow of blood; ie- a great energy force you have which otherwise represents power they don't. They thus want you to fail, they want your bloodline to fizzle out with you jerking off to the things that money buys and as an insurance policy for those that fail at acquring the drug of money they have a free version ie- porn, fast/cheap food and government handouts to cater to all 'classes' on the human specrum such that the self-inflicted genocide carries out either way.

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Awesome post. Okay, a lot to think about there.

Would you mind if I ask you a few questions? They will read like jew tricks because I am going to try and expose what I think is a flaw in that thinking, but I mean this honestly and accept that I could be wrong.

So lets go back 100 000 years to europe where our ancestors lived in small tribes, usually along rivers and grazing pastures because only meat exist year round and veg/fruit only during the summer.

Some of us will live in small 1-3 person tribes because of bad luck others will live in 60 person tribes and dominate an area.

The economics for everyone looks something like this:

1) SUBSISTENCE - Some tribes, especially the small ones, will be living hand to mouth. They only have enough labour to hunt enough food for a few days to a week ahead of time before they have to hunt again. Because they have so few people in the tribe they can never overcome the core poverty level because any savings in food that they accumulate gets eaten up either by due course of illness or another tribe killing a person or a valuable member of the tribe tripping, breaking their foot and now not only NOT able to provide but actually consuming valuable food saved up.

2) STORED WEALTH - Larger tribes usually become larger through the luck of bounty of their area + not enough desease and death eating into their resources. If their numbers are large enough, they will have automatically learned the benefits of the network effects of a large tribe of related individuals dividing up responsibility through specialization. The smartest and most competent tribes will have learned high levels of specialization through discipline which will allow them to hunt more food than they need and create techniques for smoking and storing up large amounts of food for a long time so they have to work less and enjoy life more.

If they happen to have a VERY large store of food (value) and they happen to live next to other larger or small tribes, they can start to TRADE those stores of food (value) for labour and other goods and services that other tribes provide. Perhaps the find out in one small tribe there is an exceptional builder of a kind of flint axe that they don't know how to make, they can trade him some of their stored food for a new set of tools which they now take and hunt even more efficiently and store up even more food.

The small tribe got a very large influx of new preserved food that will last a long time for a few tools they are really great at making. The large tribe looses a bit of their stored food but now has a tool they can get more food and store more food efficiently.

Everyone wins.

This is basic economics. Everyone SIMULTANEOUSLY is working for money (goods for exchange) and IS NOT working for goods of exchange because economics is merely the consequence of barter in the struggle to survive.

AT THE MOST ABSTRACT LEVEL, economics is just one monkey finding a delicious fruit that doesn't exist anywhere else trading another monkey for a shiny rock. Economics is merely the coincidental result of network effects of two monkeys being able to hold a thing and exchange it for another thing they can hold.

What you are proposing is that NO ONE SHOULD TRADE EVER IN ANY FORM FOR ANYTHING AT ALL EVER. According to your world view, each person can only act as an indvidual on their own selfish behalf and should be hunting, foraging and growing their own food, sewing their own clothes, making their own shoes and building their own airplanes to fly around the world.

You are proposing that I am following shiny trinkets. I am proposing that you don't fully appreciate economics terms such as 'store of value' and 'coincidence of wants' as it relates to survival.

Economics is as natural a part of the universe as gravity. It is the conseuquence of network effects of individual entities EXCHANGING things and building systems to store and maximize value.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO POSSIBILITY of a human ever evolving into a mammal that can self organize into large groups without the benefits of producing surpluses, storing the surpluses and maximizing surplus value without fully exploiting the network effects of transactions between individuals.

Did I get that right?

How do you propose that a single person access food, clothing, shoes, shelter, computers, games, flights the internet, and on and on WITHOUT trade?

Awesome post. Okay, a lot to think about there. Would you mind if I ask you a few questions? They will read like jew tricks because I am going to try and expose what I think is a flaw in that thinking, but I mean this honestly and accept that I could be wrong. So lets go back 100 000 years to europe where our ancestors lived in small tribes, usually along rivers and grazing pastures because only meat exist year round and veg/fruit only during the summer. Some of us will live in small 1-3 person tribes because of bad luck others will live in 60 person tribes and dominate an area. The economics for everyone looks something like this: 1) SUBSISTENCE - Some tribes, especially the small ones, will be living hand to mouth. They only have enough labour to hunt enough food for a few days to a week ahead of time before they have to hunt again. Because they have so few people in the tribe they can never overcome the core poverty level because any savings in food that they accumulate gets eaten up either by due course of illness or another tribe killing a person or a valuable member of the tribe tripping, breaking their foot and now not only NOT able to provide but actually consuming valuable food saved up. 2) STORED WEALTH - Larger tribes usually become larger through the luck of bounty of their area + not enough desease and death eating into their resources. If their numbers are large enough, they will have automatically learned the benefits of the network effects of a large tribe of related individuals dividing up responsibility through specialization. The smartest and most competent tribes will have learned high levels of specialization through discipline which will allow them to hunt more food than they need and create techniques for smoking and storing up large amounts of food for a long time so they have to work less and enjoy life more. If they happen to have a VERY large store of food (value) and they happen to live next to other larger or small tribes, they can start to TRADE those stores of food (value) for labour and other goods and services that other tribes provide. Perhaps the find out in one small tribe there is an exceptional builder of a kind of flint axe that they don't know how to make, they can trade him some of their stored food for a new set of tools which they now take and hunt even more efficiently and store up even more food. The small tribe got a very large influx of new preserved food that will last a long time for a few tools they are really great at making. The large tribe looses a bit of their stored food but now has a tool they can get more food and store more food efficiently. Everyone wins. This is basic economics. Everyone SIMULTANEOUSLY is working for money (goods for exchange) and IS NOT working for goods of exchange because economics is merely the consequence of barter in the struggle to survive. AT THE MOST ABSTRACT LEVEL, economics is just one monkey finding a delicious fruit that doesn't exist anywhere else trading another monkey for a shiny rock. Economics is merely the coincidental result of network effects of two monkeys being able to hold a thing and exchange it for another thing they can hold. What you are proposing is that NO ONE SHOULD TRADE EVER IN ANY FORM FOR ANYTHING AT ALL EVER. According to your world view, each person can only act as an indvidual on their own selfish behalf and should be hunting, foraging and growing their own food, sewing their own clothes, making their own shoes and building their own airplanes to fly around the world. You are proposing that I am following shiny trinkets. I am proposing that you don't fully appreciate economics terms such as 'store of value' and 'coincidence of wants' as it relates to survival. Economics is as natural a part of the universe as gravity. It is the conseuquence of network effects of individual entities EXCHANGING things and building systems to store and maximize value. There is ABSOLUTELY NO POSSIBILITY of a human ever evolving into a mammal that can self organize into large groups without the benefits of producing surpluses, storing the surpluses and maximizing surplus value without fully exploiting the network effects of transactions between individuals. Did I get that right? How do you propose that a single person access food, clothing, shoes, shelter, computers, games, flights the internet, and on and on WITHOUT trade?

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Thanks, its prudent to have a dialogue about these things if there is to be progress and not (((progress)))

So lets go back 100 000 years

Into a ficticious period for all we know. Do you have proof 100,000 years ago is even a thing?

Regardless, there were obviously past times with hardship and struggle - that will never change. Just that today our 'benefits' come at cost in other areas. There were past times probably with other benefits we cannot percieve today; because they've been robbed from our ancestors or more accurately - that our ancestors gave away or failed to defend; tricked themselves probably into the lure of money & greed.

Anyway your economics make sense. The problem is: they are economics. Which is primarily based on the mass-religion of money. The belief that we must consent to a third party 'system' for the benefit of the many. I don't think it works at scale because you can never trust 'the many' because some of those many are easily exploited by a few and the resulting domino effect will soon have your sons & daughters changing genders.

I am not proposing rejection of trade. I am proposing rejection of third party idolotry units. Any third party unit, even if only used by 2 neighbouring farmers to facilitate exchange of pigs for chickens, is an idol which requires belief to work. Even that system sure probably harmless in this context; a bit of accounting techniques to help accommodate a seasonal cycle as you suggested is not necessarily a problem when used in a small network of those you trust. It doesn't change the fact that there is belief involved however; and that the farmer who is at the end of the day holding the bag of 'units' and not chickens nor pigs is the one who has all the risk. A better system would be to ensure at all times in the exchange cycle that all parties receive something they need; you do not need imaginary idol units as you cannot eat them, so you don't need to use them even temporary there are ways for example using a 3rd farmer or a secondary product to engineer this so that even in off seasons everybody can exchange 1:1 for what they need. That way nobody needs to take a leap of faith. Do you see what I'm getting at here ? If not, see below.

Economics is as natural a part of the universe as gravity.

You believe in a 'universe' and you believe in 'gravity'. Do not impose those beliefs unto me, and do not attempt to engage in trade with me with your imaginary idolotry units. Do you understand this position? I reject belief in invisible things. Do not try to convince me to wear a mask either to protect from the invisible 'virus'.

Do you understand that if everyone in your comunity defaulted to this position 'third party authorities' (tryants or travelling merchants alike) would have actually no authority over you? Each one of your beliefs represnts concession of power to them; those who offer the beleif. Space, gravity, viruses pale in comparison to money; the pararsite elite have no greater power than economics because you believe them to such an extent you are willing to value everything else in your life in accordance to it; you use it to acquire what you need therefore you only use it - you do not question the underlying religion of it. After all, you are too busy 'making it' right? They just need keep you busy.

Improve your mind & body first and foremost; as you gain strength and comprehension your ecosystem will naturally emmanate from within to give you what you need everywhere else. You will not go back into the 'stone age' if you put in the honest struggle to maintain yourself and defend your needs; your capabilities, talents, skills, expertise, trading partners, and fruits of labour will not suddenly dissappear if you decide to reject money.

Thanks, its prudent to have a dialogue about these things if there is to be progress and not (((progress))) > So lets go back 100 000 years Into a ficticious period for all we know. Do you have proof 100,000 years ago is even a thing? Regardless, there were obviously past times with hardship and struggle - that will never change. Just that today our 'benefits' come at cost in other areas. There were past times probably with other benefits we cannot percieve today; because they've been robbed from our ancestors or more accurately - that our ancestors gave away or failed to defend; tricked themselves probably into the lure of money & greed. Anyway your economics make sense. The problem is: they are economics. Which is primarily based on the mass-religion of money. The belief that we must consent to a third party 'system' for the benefit of the many. I don't think it works at scale because you can never trust 'the many' because some of those many are easily exploited by a few and the resulting domino effect will soon have your sons & daughters changing genders. I am not proposing rejection of trade. I am proposing rejection of third party idolotry units. Any third party unit, even if only used by 2 neighbouring farmers to facilitate exchange of pigs for chickens, is an idol which requires belief to work. Even that system sure probably harmless in this context; a bit of accounting techniques to help accommodate a seasonal cycle as you suggested is not necessarily a problem when used in a small network of those you trust. It doesn't change the fact that there is belief involved however; and that the farmer who is at the end of the day holding the bag of 'units' and not chickens nor pigs is the one who has all the risk. A better system would be to ensure at all times in the exchange cycle that all parties receive something they need; you do not need imaginary idol units as you cannot eat them, so you don't need to use them even temporary there are ways for example using a 3rd farmer or a secondary product to engineer this so that even in off seasons everybody can exchange 1:1 for what they need. That way nobody needs to take a leap of faith. Do you see what I'm getting at here ? If not, see below. > Economics is as natural a part of the universe as gravity. You believe in a 'universe' and you believe in 'gravity'. Do not impose those beliefs unto me, and do not attempt to engage in trade with me with your imaginary idolotry units. Do you understand this position? I reject belief in invisible things. Do not try to convince me to wear a mask either to protect from the invisible 'virus'. Do you understand that if everyone in your comunity defaulted to this position 'third party authorities' (tryants or travelling merchants alike) would have actually no authority over you? Each one of your beliefs represnts concession of power to them; those who offer the beleif. Space, gravity, viruses pale in comparison to money; the pararsite elite have no greater power than economics because you believe them to such an extent you are willing to value everything else in your life in accordance to it; you use it to acquire what you need therefore you only use it - you do not question the underlying religion of it. After all, you are too busy 'making it' right? They just need keep you busy. Improve your mind & body first and foremost; as you gain strength and comprehension your ecosystem will naturally emmanate from within to give you what you need everywhere else. You will not go back into the 'stone age' if you put in the honest struggle to maintain yourself and defend your needs; your capabilities, talents, skills, expertise, trading partners, and fruits of labour will not suddenly dissappear if you decide to reject money.

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