Understood and that's a huge difference and I remember reading about Eunuchs but forgot about them completely until you reminded me. I had no idea the ME had so many s saharan slaves but at the same time not really surprised. Slavery seems to have always been big business. Anyhow thanks for the information and I was just eluding to how Ancient Egypt and many other countries have had significant demographic changes since ancient times. Eunuchs though... it's weird I've only really heard that term once prior to you mentioning it. I'm still quite ignorant to history it seems. Thanks again