>Is there any site/service that has the problem figured out, or reduced the error further than others? I remember back in the simple hit counter website days, each reload counted. Nope. These days it's much to easy to fake views/hits from multiple automated systems using VPNs and IP address switching. Also botnets and zombie computers under central control of (((hackers))) can influence the numbers any way they want. Oh, and don't forget the view/click farms in china that can be hired to drive up traffic and views. When there's money involved you can be sure the jews and the chinks will be all over it. >But surely they use something more sophisticated now The jews have no incentive to fix the system because only the smart people like us will cry foul. The rest of the NPC consoomers love the idea of "breaking the internet" because it sounds so freakin' cool to them. NPCs are impressed by big numbers attached to things they may or may not care about for real.