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I haven't received any formal medical training but I've watched/helped my wife give birth a lot now. I thought my observations might help someone. @Silently_Screaming

Physical preparation is a big deal. Labor and delivery go much more smoothly and the chances of bad tearing or things getting bogged down and ending up in a C section drop massively if a pregnant woman actively prepares her body for labor. Overall fitness is good, squats and lunges and whatever core exercises she can manage help a lot. Labor is obvious very strenuous so strength and stamina help. More specifically, stretching the hips and round ligament are very helpful and can keep the baby's head positioned appropriately. In two of my wife's labors things started to stall and contractions were just painful and non-productive until she did a series of side-lying leg releases that opened her hips back up. Keep moving. Hospitals try to stick laboring women lying flat on their backs in the least ergonomic position possible. I can only assume they do it on purpose to increase the likelihood of a c section and an extended hospital stay. Walk around. Do lunges between contractions. Walk up and down stairs sideways. Roll around on a big exercise ball. Hang off a bannister or other rail. Do almost anything besides just lying there like a dead fish.

I haven't been through all their content so some of it might be womyn goddess bullshit but the organization Spinning Babies (spinningbabies.com) has a lot of information on pre-natal stretching and positioning. The simple act of deciding to help yourself rather than just blindly following OB recommendations helps a lot too. There are tinctures and teas that help with uterine tone as well. Find a naturopath or ask @butttoucha9000. Boost blood volume however you can, chlorophyll is good, and take a lot of iron both before and after delivery - vegans btfo.

If it's your first time delivering at home, find a midwife, or at the very least a doula. We have had babies both at home and in the hospital and we've always had a doula with us. Resisting medical advice or pressure to take the epidural or pitosin or whatever is wise, but it is also helpful to have someone with you who has seen a lot of births. A doula can help you decide when you've hit a dangerous trigger point to where the medical intervention is actually justified. Don't bleed out just because your heart is set on a natural birth, as desirable as that is. Interview the midwives, some of them are big on the girl-power aspect and dismissive of the husband's involvement entirely; lots of them verge on being actual witches. Know your state's laws on home births. Some states bar midwives from performing out-of-hospital births if the pregnancy has particular complications leaving you faced with chosing either a hospital delivery or one fully-unassisted at home. I was just blindsided and fucked hard by that a few months ago. Shame on me for not knowing and being more careful with what we revealed to an OB.

Some midwife practices will do home births and bring all their own supplies and handle the cleanup. That has been worth paying for in my experience and it still costs a fraction of a hospital birth. If you want to do more of it on your own, get a shitload of towels/rags/etc, big wet wipes, big absorbent pads, big garbage bags, a couple sets of throwaway bed sheets, and actual waterproof bottom sheets for the bed. Have a means of keeping hot water handy. Have a plan for handling the mess even if that just consists of bagging it up and throwing it all away lol.

Post-delivery, don't let anyone cut the umbilical cord until it's stopped pulsing, and get baby on mom's bare skin as fast as possible, wipe any blood/shit/other fluids off them but don't bathe or scrub them right away. If they're fortunate enough to have their vernix still, leave it alone. Start breastfeeding asap. Half the issue with all the normie labor interventions is that they disrupt the normal post-labor hormone cascade that kick-starts lactation. It's crucial for not only nutrition but the baby's immune system. It's normal for newborns to be a bit blue/gray right at first, especially if labor was tough. Some of that is bruising from the big squeeze, some of it is their blood flow getting going under their own power. It will be obvious if they're not getting enough oxygen. Get a stethoscope, a suction bulb, an accurate sling scale, a good thermometer, and an infant pulse oximeter. Their heart rate will be high af at first, you can find normal ranges online. Listen to their lungs, if they're raspy or sound like they're breathing underwater, they probably are. You can suction a lot of that out but if you don't know what you're doing that might be best left to a midwife. Monitor and record all the normal vital signs and write it down. Calibrate your thermometer and fuck you if you stick it up your newborn's ass. Armpit works just fucking fine. A fever for a newborn is a bad problem. If the time between water breaking and delivery is short, the changes of any bacterial colonization are very very low but it's still a possibility - don't fall for the group B strep antibiotics bullshit. Baby is fine unless you see signs of infection or distress. Be willing to go to the hospital. The midwife/doula can help guide that decision.

La Leche League (llli.org) has a lot of info on breastfeeding. Beyond that they're normies so sorry about all the negresses pictured. If you can't breastfeed or can't produce enough seek out a crisis pregnancy center or similar. Midwives will know who to call. There are lots of women who produce a ton of milk and understand how important it is for babies. My wife has donated a lot of milk to other moms through the local birth center. @butttoucha9000 probably knows of natural ways to boost lactation. Yeast is helpful.

Wear your baby as much as possible rather than always having them in a rocker or cradle or whatever. Get or make a ring sling or rebozo and learn how to use it. The first months of life are the 4th trimester. Keeping that baby close to mom's heartbeat does nothing but good.

Finally, co-sleep. I've posted about that before but it's a huge deal. Everyone needs to sleep and it's generally safe to do so.

Read everything you can find and talk to women who have had natural labors. This is what women were created for and a woman who is paying attention to her own body can often tell when things are wrong. Keep the fact in mind that childbearing/rearing is the woman's battlefield and is how she can fight back. Approaching the whole process with that mindset rather than focusing on the pain or generally gross nature of the proceedings is massively helpful. Be there to help. My wife ends up holding her breath toward the end of labor and getting tired. Nurses are afraid to issue helpful commands, be there to lovingly remind your wife that she needs to keep breathing or whatever is needed. Help her fight the most important battle she ever will. It's a dangerous task but a noble one and worth the risks a thousand times over.

I haven't received any formal medical training but I've watched/helped my wife give birth a lot now. I thought my observations might help someone. @Silently_Screaming Physical preparation is a big deal. Labor and delivery go much more smoothly and the chances of bad tearing or things getting bogged down and ending up in a C section drop massively if a pregnant woman actively prepares her body for labor. Overall fitness is good, squats and lunges and whatever core exercises she can manage help a lot. Labor is obvious very strenuous so strength and stamina help. More specifically, stretching the hips and round ligament are very helpful and can keep the baby's head positioned appropriately. In two of my wife's labors things started to stall and contractions were just painful and non-productive until she did a series of side-lying leg releases that opened her hips back up. Keep moving. Hospitals try to stick laboring women lying flat on their backs in the least ergonomic position possible. I can only assume they do it on purpose to increase the likelihood of a c section and an extended hospital stay. Walk around. Do lunges between contractions. Walk up and down stairs sideways. Roll around on a big exercise ball. Hang off a bannister or other rail. Do almost anything besides just lying there like a dead fish. I haven't been through all their content so some of it might be womyn goddess bullshit but the organization [Spinning Babies](https://www.spinningbabies.com/pregnancy-birth/techniques/) has a lot of information on pre-natal stretching and positioning. The simple act of deciding to help yourself rather than just blindly following OB recommendations helps a lot too. There are tinctures and teas that help with uterine tone as well. Find a naturopath or ask @butttoucha9000. Boost blood volume however you can, chlorophyll is good, and take a lot of iron both before and after delivery - vegans btfo. If it's your first time delivering at home, find a midwife, or at the very least a doula. We have had babies both at home and in the hospital and we've always had a doula with us. Resisting medical advice or pressure to take the epidural or pitosin or whatever is wise, but it is also helpful to have someone with you who has seen a lot of births. A doula can help you decide when you've hit a dangerous trigger point to where the medical intervention is actually justified. Don't bleed out just because your heart is set on a natural birth, as desirable as that is. Interview the midwives, some of them are big on the girl-power aspect and dismissive of the husband's involvement entirely; lots of them verge on being actual witches. Know your state's laws on home births. Some states bar midwives from performing out-of-hospital births if the pregnancy has particular complications leaving you faced with chosing either a hospital delivery or one fully-unassisted at home. I was just blindsided and fucked hard by that a few months ago. Shame on me for not knowing and being more careful with what we revealed to an OB. Some midwife practices will do home births and bring all their own supplies and handle the cleanup. That has been worth paying for in my experience and it still costs a fraction of a hospital birth. If you want to do more of it on your own, get a shitload of towels/rags/etc, big wet wipes, big absorbent pads, big garbage bags, a couple sets of throwaway bed sheets, and actual waterproof bottom sheets for the bed. Have a means of keeping hot water handy. Have a plan for handling the mess even if that just consists of bagging it up and throwing it all away lol. Post-delivery, don't let anyone cut the umbilical cord until it's stopped pulsing, and get baby on mom's bare skin as fast as possible, wipe any blood/shit/other fluids off them but don't bathe or scrub them right away. If they're fortunate enough to have their vernix still, leave it alone. Start breastfeeding asap. Half the issue with all the normie labor interventions is that they disrupt the normal post-labor hormone cascade that kick-starts lactation. It's crucial for not only nutrition but the baby's immune system. It's normal for newborns to be a bit blue/gray right at first, especially if labor was tough. Some of that is bruising from the big squeeze, some of it is their blood flow getting going under their own power. It will be obvious if they're not getting enough oxygen. Get a stethoscope, a suction bulb, an accurate sling scale, a good thermometer, and an infant pulse oximeter. Their heart rate will be high af at first, you can find normal ranges online. Listen to their lungs, if they're raspy or sound like they're breathing underwater, they probably are. You can suction a lot of that out but if you don't know what you're doing that might be best left to a midwife. Monitor and record all the normal vital signs and write it down. Calibrate your thermometer and fuck you if you stick it up your newborn's ass. Armpit works just fucking fine. A fever for a newborn is a bad problem. If the time between water breaking and delivery is short, the changes of any bacterial colonization are very very low but it's still a possibility - don't fall for the group B strep antibiotics bullshit. Baby is fine unless you see signs of infection or distress. Be willing to go to the hospital. The midwife/doula can help guide that decision. [La Leche League](https://www.llli.org/breastfeeding-info/) has a lot of info on breastfeeding. Beyond that they're normies so sorry about all the negresses pictured. If you can't breastfeed or can't produce enough seek out a crisis pregnancy center or similar. Midwives will know who to call. There are lots of women who produce a ton of milk and understand how important it is for babies. My wife has donated a lot of milk to other moms through the local birth center. @butttoucha9000 probably knows of natural ways to boost lactation. Yeast is helpful. Wear your baby as much as possible rather than always having them in a rocker or cradle or whatever. Get or make a ring sling or rebozo and learn how to use it. The first months of life are the 4th trimester. Keeping that baby close to mom's heartbeat does nothing but good. Finally, co-sleep. I've [posted about that before](https://poal.co/s/TellPoal/589121) but it's a huge deal. Everyone needs to sleep and it's generally safe to do so. Read everything you can find and talk to women who have had natural labors. This is what women were created for and a woman who is paying attention to her own body can often tell when things are wrong. Keep the fact in mind that childbearing/rearing is the woman's battlefield and is how she can fight back. Approaching the whole process with that mindset rather than focusing on the pain or generally gross nature of the proceedings is massively helpful. Be there to help. My wife ends up holding her breath toward the end of labor and getting tired. Nurses are afraid to issue helpful commands, be there to lovingly remind your wife that she needs to keep breathing or whatever is needed. Help her fight the most important battle she ever will. It's a dangerous task but a noble one and worth the risks a thousand times over.

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You're the bomb bro. All of this is amazing information. Good knowledge must be shared to be useful. You may have just saved lives.

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Thank you for posting this. I had intended to hit you up this weekend for info. It's mighty White of you!

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Sounds like it's not your first time going through it so a lot of that word vomit is probably very redundant. The biggest thing I can recommend is to not be intimidated by anyone trying to hype up the extra risks of home birth. They're just assmad they won't get to bill you for it lol.

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These are some solid tips. We've already begun looking for a midwife. There's no way we are trusting a hospital with how many times we've heard people being given the COVID shot "accidentally". I'd lose my freedom if that happened to my family. My wife and I are practically on the same page. I don't want any vaccinations, but my wife thinks not all of them are bad so I'm gonna be educating her on it before July. Other than that slight issue she doesn't trust the medical establishment any more than I do. I utterly hate this timeline we're living in where you can't trust anyone in authority.

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Fight for that baby over the no-vax stance. Sounds like you know but it's a huge deal. Keep that kids immune system and blood clean. No vaccine is safe or necessary. They are all poison.

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Any info on not signing birth certificates or any of that?

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Unfortunately not. I haven't taken the off-grid pill that hard yet.

So for decades now I've been advising parents to homeschool their kids. Now it's becoming apparent that I'm also going to start recommending parents homebirth their babies because you can't trust hospitals or doctors anymore.

Wonderful post and commentary. Thanks.

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Not homeschooling is flat out child abuse at this point. And submitting to hospital directives is pretty much the same.

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My wife at the time was a high risk, she was diabetic since age 10. I took over her nutrition so wasnt worried. The doctors were, one dropped us late into the pregnancy. We were outside memphis so the only hospital that would take us was the med. Then they said baby had jaundice so had to keep him. I squirted a vitamin E capsule in his mouth. They doctors said they had never seen such a fast recovery. I was in the elevator with the doctor and when I told her what I did she got pissed off at me, fuck doctors.

As An aside we had great insurance at the time but still had to pay as I watched them pay for taxis to bring crackheads in.

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They fucking hate it when you not only decline their advice but solve the problem yourself.

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I still remember the hatred on her face. Doctors have what? 4 hours of nutrition?

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Because of complications we had our youngest in the hospital. Because of state laws it was either there or at home with no midwife support. We left within 3 hours of delivery. The hospital acted like we'd need to stay at least a day so the pediatrician could examine the baby. I suggested that perhaps she just do her job and be present at time of delivery, which she did. She thought hard about not releasing the baby for 24hr since that's just what they do and she considered sending CPS to our house since we declined 100% of their infant (((services))). She only decided not to when I let her know I would come speak to her again if she did.

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I wouldn’t do it. Our last one came with a complication that would have left her somewhere between brain dead or just dead had we had her at home. Quick thinking and fast action from the medical staff saved her.

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What was the complication, if you don't mind me asking.

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I’m so incredibly thankful that the staff noticed it as quickly as they did. They said “prolapse” on their phone, and the room was full of people moving with precision and knowledge within seconds. A minute later they were wheeling her to the OR.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/12345-umbilical-cord-prolapse

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That's certainly scary. But in most cases detectable with palpation or ultrasound. Certainly wouldn't go through with a home birth attempt if known. Can I ask if your wife was induced, on any form of pain killer, or had a membrane sweep? Because umbilical prolapse is known to be significantly more common in cases where the woman was induced. So the risk, while still always present, is notably lower for fully natural labor.