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A lot of people seem to have certain faith in God, and I can respect them for that, but it makes no sense to me.

I wish I could share the disposition, the idea that this imperfect world was created by a perfect God, and somehow all the pain and suffering that comes along with it will just be worth it in the end.

I can't see it, though.

I know that the mysterious of the higher realms are not to be understood, but that can't stop my impotent urge to try and understand why all this keeps on happening.

Everything is Good.

God is Good.

There is a Devil, and we must reject his influence.

And it only makes sense if you believe in the symmetry of Good and Evil. The innate human desire to balance things out.

It could be entirely possible that Good and Evil are not balanced.

That we just want to perceive things as happening in a dichotomy, because of our flawed perception.

I think any God that was in charge of creation probably had to be ambivalent, not Good.

Because that God allowed the creation of Child-Molesters. That God allowed kids to enjoy a brief, innocent, beautiful childhood, only to strip it away from them, because that God also allowed Monsters.

I don't get.

I believe in God.

But I can't come to any logical conclusion in which he isn't Evil.

A lot of people seem to have certain faith in God, and I can respect them for that, but it makes no sense to me. I wish I could share the disposition, the idea that this imperfect world was created by a perfect God, and somehow all the pain and suffering that comes along with it will just be worth it in the end. I can't see it, though. I know that the mysterious of the higher realms are not to be understood, but that can't stop my impotent urge to try and understand why all this keeps on happening. Everything is Good. God is Good. There is a Devil, and we must reject his influence. And it only makes sense if you believe in the symmetry of Good and Evil. The innate human desire to balance things out. It could be entirely possible that Good and Evil are not balanced. That we just want to perceive things as happening in a dichotomy, because of our flawed perception. I think any God that was in charge of creation probably had to be ambivalent, not Good. Because that God allowed the creation of Child-Molesters. That God allowed kids to enjoy a brief, innocent, beautiful childhood, only to strip it away from them, because that God also allowed Monsters. I don't get. I believe in God. But I can't come to any logical conclusion in which he isn't Evil.

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[–] • 2 pts

First of all get the idea of the magical man that snaps his fingers and grants wishes out of your head, that's jewish bullshit and result of their subversion of Christianity.

As I said once when we had similar discussion, we are the embodiment of God's will, and God is the embodiment of our will.

This means that we came to be through God, and we are the God's instruments.

Everything in this world that is against our combined will is evil. Pure and simple. You have a deep intuition that guides you, but it only works as it should if you are dedicated to doing the God's work. This is why jews seek to separate people from God as much as possible, and sad reality of today is that vast majority of 'Christians' are atheists without even knowing it. Once you are disconnected from God, you seek guidance on what is good or evil from outside sources, and this is why jews can convince you that harming children and letting them destroy your people is somehow good. This is what mainly separates a "critical thinker" from a normie. That silent "voice", an instinct inside you that told you not to take the vax, not to believe the media, not to trust the jews, is not your based science high IQ decision making. It's something a lot deeper that was there since the day you were born. The more you give in to it, the louder and clearer it "speaks". The louder and clearer it speaks, the more obvious your purpose in life becomes.

The reason why pedophiles and other evil creatures exist in this world is simple - it's because we are not doing our part as the instruments of God. We are allowing the evil to exist, and therefore God is allowing the evil to exist. He is not punishing us, we are punishing ourselves by not doing his work.

"If you do not obey God you will end up in hell". What does this world look like to you now? We have disobeyed God, neglected our work, and have created hell we live in. I firmly believe that we will be forever stuck in this place and will never ascend if we do not start working.

Death will not free us from this, but if "God is with us, who can be against us?".

[–] • 1 pt

I don't have any witty or poetic response to this.

[–] • 1 pt

If we weren't living in hell you would have, but that would put me through hell.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

I see God as the universe and the laws of nature. I'm a super determinist. I believe the laws of nature dictate past present and future. It's cause and effect all the way down.

We're animals. Animals are biological robots, incapable of independent thought, animals just react to their environments. They have no free will. They are slaves to their nature.

Humanity can negate its nature. We can ignore our instincts. We have free will, at least as far as we can tell. Determinism says no but, we can't perceive that. It does explain god knowing the future though.

Anyway, we have free will and can negate our nature, which, when viewed through a lens of collective ancient wisdom, is a good thing.

Sin, is falling into our animal nature. The more we embrace our instincts and ignore our reason, the more we sin, the more likely it is our life will become more difficult, more painful. A life lived this way, in abject selfishness, blindly seeking pleasure and avoiding pain and doing so by stepping on anyone smaller than you, leads to a life of hell. People don't like or trust you, you have nobody. You are alone. You will die alone and forgotten. That is hell.

Heaven is reflecting on a life well lived. A life not filled with regret and remorse. A life you can feel proud to have lived.

God is neither good or evil, he is both at once.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts (edited )

For instance...being gay.

Being gay, is short circuiting nature. It's pleasure seeking behavior. It's heroin. It's exploiting the fact that touching the prostate is sexually pleasurable. This isn't intended, anymore than the receptors in our brains are intended to accept plant based opioids. It's short circuiting the pleasure center.

And the deeper you get into it, the more dangerous it becomes. You expose yourself to physical and mental disease. If your programming says make babies and you don't succeed at that, there will be consequences. Depression, and the degeneracy and pleasure seeking that follow in a vain attempt to make it all feel better. And of course it only makes it worse.

This is why gays and troons are so often depressed, drug addled and degenerate. It's why it so often takes hitting rock bottom to snap out of it and start thinking rationally about your choices and behaviors. What interesting is how often it results in the adoption of religion...which is sort of rational. Yeah maybe it's full of magical nonsense, but, it seems like when people live their lives according to the religions that teach the golden rule, Christianity being tops, their lives are easier, better, more fulfilling, less pain, less loneliness, less isolation.

And that sounds a lot like heaven to me. Just here, on Earth, especially in our final moments of reflection.

[–] • 1 pt

Ask yourself this question: is the purpose of life to avoid suffering?

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

God permits evil because He permits freedom—and without freedom, there can be no love, no obedience, no real goodness. Evil is a distortion of what was meant to be good. Even Christ faced temptation, but never sinned. God’s justice requires that evil be confronted and judged, but His mercy leaves open the door to repentance for even the worst. Evil causes real suffering—but God will redeem it all. The cross proves it: suffering doesn’t mean God is absent; it means He entered into suffering Himself, to conquer it. Also, God wouldn’t be a just God if there wasn’t justice. There are still consequences to your actions, and those won’t change because you repented. Like King David committed murder and adultery. He paid for his actions with his kingdom collapsing. He still found salvation, but he had to pay the price for what he chose to do.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

You're expressing a view akin to various Gnostic concepts of the Demiurge, Theo. A lower leveled flawed architect that created the world and suffers under the delusion that he (it?) is in charge when, in actuality, is subordinate to the true Godhead.

Or maybe the conceptual orientation of a Deist: God exists and set the stage through the creation of the universe but that was the end of his involvement. No divine intervention nor meddling in mortal affairs. Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin come to mind.