This is what I am talking about. What you did right there. You clearly believe and because you think I don't believe like you, I am automatically wrong and you right. This is based on your opinion. Give me evidence. As for the human mind being able to contemplate something from nothing: Horse shit. Science shows what happens when there is truly nothing. Something pops in! The people that discovered that probably had that theory before showing it. The fact they showed it and I understand it says your statement is based on a presupposition that they and myself included can't do what we did. "And we constantly try to sort causes and effects into being either good,.or bad." <--- I agree with this "Or maybe, just maybe, have not accepted Christ into your heart." <--- Shame, guilt, just believe, just do what we all do and pretend to believe when you know you don't. Then I can be in the club and declare my opinions as fact over everyone not in my club. Greek and Hebrew are the languages the bible was written in. The translated mainstream English versions are crap because of the translating hack job and some might say cover up. They didn't take all of the good stuff out. Take this one. We all know it but the story and translation was butchered. Here is a Youngs literal translation that makes more sense Take note the context and number 34. ``` John 10:34 30 I and the Father are one.' 31 Therefore, again, did the Jews take up stones that they may stone him; 32 Jesus answered them, `Many good works did I shew you from my Father; because of which work of them do ye stone me?' 33 The Jews answered him, saying, `For a good work we do not stone thee, but for evil speaking, and because thou, being a man, dost make thyself God.' 34 Jesus answered them, `Is it not having been written in your law: I said, ye are gods? 35 if them he did call gods unto whom the word of God came, (and the Writing is not able to be broken,) 36 of him whom the Father did sanctify, and send to the world, do ye say -- Thou speakest evil, because I said, Son of God I am? ``` Jesus was talking about Psalms 82 Look close at number 6. This is what Jesus was telling everyone. ``` 82 -- A Psalm of Asaph. God hath stood in the company of God, In the midst God doth judge. 2 Till when do ye judge perversely? And the face of the wicked lift up? Selah. 3 Judge ye the weak and fatherless, The afflicted and the poor declare righteous. 4 Let the weak and needy escape, From the hand of the wicked deliver them. 5 They knew not, nor do they understand, In darkness they walk habitually, Moved are all the foundations of earth. 6 I -- I have said, `Gods ye [are], And sons of the Most High -- all of you, 7 But as man ye die, and as one of the heads ye fall, 8 Rise, O God, judge the earth, For Thou hast inheritance among all the nations! ``` Jesus was a man, like us and we are the same as him.