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The last year at my former employer was also the last year of Trump's presidency before the deadly coronavirus killed us all. The company had one it's best years in a decade, and we all got a substantial year-end bonus - something on the order of $5000 after everything had been taken out.

(The kid that took over the place from his parents whined that no one groveled before him until someone told him that everyone saw this as the raises his parents never gave anyone.)

When I got that deposit in my account, I looked at it. Didn't touch it. A day later, something said to me "That's about what you have left on your car. You should pay that car off with that money. Don't just let it sit there, pay it off now." So I did. Made the final payment and got the title. The day after I made that payment, I stopped by the local "Dayum these doughnuts are good!" bakery and picked up a couple dozen. Dropped them on the table because fuck you I paid off my car and that's the only open loan I had.

My boss gave me this weird look when I told him why I brought doughnuts.

To give you some context, he was, is, and always will be a fucking redneck hick. He's constantly trying to keep up with the Joneses. Constantly buying vehicles. Motorcycles. Bought a condo timeshare. Whined about not being able to afford a pool like his neighbors. Has a giant McMansion in a high-price area that he can barely afford. If he was a woman, he'd get a boob job. Terrible with money, never has two dimes to rub together. His parents are the same way, they lost a decently profitable dairy farm because they're terrible with money.

(To be fair, private dairy is a hard business because you're constantly squeezed by governmental regs and big players.)

But back to the look. This was a look of total not understanding. How could you pay off your loan just...like that? He's never going to pay off anything, never will be able to pay off anything, and the look on his face was simply priceless because I could hear the gears shattering and springs coming undone. I really wanted to say something like you need to quit spending money like a nigger and just buckle down a little, but I didn't because it wouldn't go over well and it wouldn't do anything regardless. The money he got was spent on beer and food and crap, and it was gone in short order. Oh the amount of beer that was consumed...

The company has since closed and I know he took a job that pays more. Apparently, new things were had when that new money came in because why save a little of it by not spending every cent you get?

But the reason for the story? I was laid off 4 months after this bonus pay out. Someone was looking out for me, and I appreciate that.

Thank you for coming to my Fred talk, you've been a wonderful audience. Tip your waiter.

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The last year at my former employer was also the last year of Trump's presidency before the deadly coronavirus killed us all. The company had one it's best years in a decade, and we all got a substantial year-end bonus - something on the order of $5000 after everything had been taken out. (The kid that took over the place from his parents whined that no one groveled before him until someone told him that everyone saw this as the raises his parents never gave anyone.) When I got that deposit in my account, I looked at it. Didn't touch it. A day later, something said to me "That's about what you have left on your car. You should pay that car off with that money. Don't just let it sit there, pay it off now." So I did. Made the final payment and got the title. The day after I made that payment, I stopped by the local "Dayum these doughnuts are good!" bakery and picked up a couple dozen. Dropped them on the table because fuck you I paid off my car and that's the only open loan I had. My boss gave me this weird look when I told him why I brought doughnuts. To give you some context, he was, is, and always will be a fucking redneck hick. He's constantly trying to keep up with the Joneses. Constantly buying vehicles. Motorcycles. Bought a ~~condo~~ timeshare. Whined about not being able to afford a pool like his neighbors. Has a giant McMansion in a high-price area that he can barely afford. If he was a woman, he'd get a boob job. Terrible with money, never has two dimes to rub together. His parents are the same way, they lost a decently profitable dairy farm because they're terrible with money. (To be fair, private dairy is a hard business because you're constantly squeezed by governmental regs and big players.) But back to the look. This was a look of total not understanding. How could you pay off your loan just...like that? He's never going to pay off anything, never will be able to pay off anything, and the look on his face was simply priceless because I could hear the gears shattering and springs coming undone. I really wanted to say something like you need to quit spending money like a nigger and just buckle down a little, but I didn't because it wouldn't go over well and it wouldn't do anything regardless. The money he got was spent on beer and food and crap, and it was gone in short order. Oh the amount of beer that was consumed... The company has since closed and I know he took a job that pays more. Apparently, new things were had when that new money came in because why save a little of it by not spending every cent you get? But the reason for the story? I was laid off 4 months after this bonus pay out. Someone was looking out for me, and I appreciate that. Thank you for coming to my Fred talk, you've been a wonderful audience. Tip your waiter.

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[–] 3 pts 8mo

I have a close friend/ex-coworker that is like that with money. He was a EE that was earning around $80K/year (20 years ago), a great salary for the area, had already gone through bankruptcy and lost his house 5 years earlier due to poor financial decisions. He was able to buy a decent doublewide on +/-23 acres way out in the sticks about 3 years after bankruptcy with "special" financing. We used to do lunch often and I'd hear him piss and moan about his finances a couple times a week. I was getting ready to quit my career to make the great leap to do my dream RE project. He was envious, wished he could do something like that. I pointed out that he could, he had 23 acres he could develop and he wouldn't have to quit work to do it. "Oh no!, couldn't do that" he said, "I love the acreage and privacy". A couple of months later he came around to embrace the idea. So I helped coach him through the development process, he made at least $250K profit on that small project over a 4 year period. He built a new 4600sqft colonial for his family on one of the lots and sold the doublewide (for more than he originally paid for it with all the land). In the meantime his father-in-law sold my friend their family camp on a big lake for $60k and financed it for him. About 10 years later my friend was already behind on paying that camp loan, so he decided to sell it for IIRC $210K! He had decided he wanted to work for himself, get out of the EE rat race, sold his big colonial home for more than twice what he had into it and bought an old variety store, proceeded to become owner/operator. After about 8 years of that he wants out of it, he's poured every penny he had into it and continues to operate at a loss. He made many improvements and has had the store listed for well over a year with no offers near what he was asking. He has used most of the credit available to him and is desperate to turn a profit or sell.

The guy has had so much money since his bankruptcy 25 years ago, yet it runs through his fingers like water. It kills me to watch him. He has always had shitty cars, a shitty house (except while he had that colonial), no time to enjoy the nice camp that he eventually sold, almost always no money to make good investments, always relying on revolving credit, a stressful life and now medical issues as a result of pushing himself and the years of stress. Flat broke, stressed out, a stuck owner operator that wants out in his 60s. He has told me more than once he would be way further ahead if he hadn't bought the store and had done nothing in all that time. Some people just never get it even when you show them the way over and over. We are still great friends and I truly wish him the best, it kills me to watch him fail. It is hard to believe such an intelligent person can be so stupid with their finances.

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[–] 2 pts 8mo

He had enough cash to invest and have a nice monthly kicker.

Oh well.

[–] 2 pts 8mo

<smdh>

Sad, but he brought it all on himself.