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Vaccines and antibiotics never once saved my life.

The fact that I never had to eat rotten food or drink shit-contaminated water have saved my life countless times.

Don't thank doctors. Thank your engineers.

Vaccines and antibiotics never once saved my life. The fact that I never had to eat rotten food or drink shit-contaminated water have saved my life countless times. Don't thank doctors. Thank your engineers.

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[–] 12 pts

I'd say antibiotics have saved countless lives.

I agree with the sentiment but you can't discount the importance of antibiotics.

[–] 9 pts

And penicillin.

But really, the biggest mover of the needle are the advances in child birth. The number of baby deaths really skewed the life expectancy ratios.

[–] 3 pts

This is the one that drives me nuts. "hey there my guy did you know the average life expectancy in the middle ages was 30? everyone in europe was illiterate haha whites dumb lmoa" Childbirth is a terrifying thing, a lot can go wrong very easily especially with malnutrition or unclean water. There was a very high infant mortality rate in those times which meant perhaps for every 1 person that made it to adulthood 1 would die (i dont know the real numbers so dont take my word for it) which would halve the average life expectancy making a population that lives on average to 80 statistically only live to 40, then throw in medieval warfare and you have another few years off the average life expectancy. Also illiteracy had nothing to do with intelligence, it just wasnt necessary at the time. Reading was a luxury to most, people who spent their daily lives working land didnt need to read shit, you could get most of the information you needed by word of mouth and i suspect communities were far more close knit in those days too.

The perversion of history has been a high priority for jews.

[–] 5 pts

Exactly. While you can argue the merits of vaccines, antibiotics have saved countless lives.

[–] 3 pts

I agree with the sentiment but you can't discount the importance of antibiotics.

Agreed but double edged sword there too. Depends on how they were administered. A For Instance. I had Spinal Meningitis in 63, nearly killed me. AFTER that I got a shitload of infections. Strep, Staph ,ear etc. Each time the 60's medical protocol was antibiotics. As a result, It killed all my bacteria, good and bad and left my immune system a pile of junk. As a result I don't get "sick". I get massive infections that bring me to deaths door in hours. THROUGH the door twice in the last ten years only to be crossed back over into this world. I am immune to nearly ALL antibiotics now. In 2013 I had an infection that lodged in my throat and blocked my windpipe. After being intubated and coma'd for a week it went down a bit but the infection wouldn't budge. They ended up cutting my throat and going in and actually scraping the infection out. Not fun. So yes I DO agree that they can work wonders but if overdone can cause a shit ton of trouble too.

[–] 4 pts

Sounds like you went through hell. My neighbor was prescribed a couple courses of antibiotics for something minor which then caused Clostridium Difficile to run rampant. Guess what the doctor prescribed for the C.diff. More antibiotics; Vancomycin (which helped somewhat but C.diff is hard to treat.) It took a healthy diet of homemade sour Kraut, among other foods, certain probiotics and yeasts to kill the C.diff and for recolonization of healthy gut bacteria.

[–] 2 pts

C. diff. The gift that keeps on giving. when I was in for the throat abscess they kept checking me for that. I still don't know why. I don't like Doctors. They are fine if its a broken bone or something the presents with no doubt but when it comes to figuring shit out, they're all kids in a closet. And I wouldn't mind that so much if they'd just ADMIT that and stop playing friggin God.

[–] 2 pts

I should've rephrased it.

I don't discount antibiotics. They are very useful.

However, they do not need to be used nearly as often when you aren't drinking shit contaminated water.

[–] 2 pts

So many scrapes and simple injuries and infections are fatal. You can die from an ingrown hair or toenail without antibiotics.

Every prepper worth half a shit has huge amounts of antibiotics for use and barter.

Don't know of any preppers looking to stockpile vaccines.

[–] 5 pts

So many scrapes and simple injuries and infections are fatal. You can die from an ingrown hair or toenail without antibiotics.

I don't know about that statement. I cut myself on probably 1/3 jobs I do. I've never had a serious infection from any of them.

[–] 1 pt

For twenty years straight I had nothing but open wounds and dirt all over me daily working outside. Never got an infection bc I practiced hygiene and the outdoors is not that gross.

Human concentrated environments are very filthy by nature so people get infections easily from the shit lurking in public places. Hospitals, stores, your house may be the bugger threat than a wound etc per se.

[–] 2 pts

Yes and no. They saved lives as a bandaid. But sanitation and prevention is better. People lived to be very old in ancient times without them because people didn’t live in dirty filthy cities and had good hygiene. Nomadic herders in marginal lands often live to very old ages with great health and rarely encounter illnesses as we do in the modern world.