With Politics I don't hold anything personal with Family. I'm not there to provoke them or try to change their mind. But I'll give my facts and stay firm on my 'beliefs' unless facts given can change them. That's it. There are millions of people on the planet I can engage and have conflict over politics with. Family doesn't have to be any one of them. Family is just a few people. When it comes to covid I see it as a religion. There are believers, half believers, and not the fuck all believers. I'm a not the fuck all believer. I'm not not going to disrespect people who are hardcore believers (so long as their collective convenient is being non invasive). I've got Family who are hardcore believers. If they didn't want me to visit etc, I would not hold it against them. I just wouldn't visit until they came to their senses or lightened their "belief". It's inevitable that it's going to happen, covid as an "pandemic" can never hold. It's just impossible any population in the past present and future history of humanity would accept it as a forever thing.