Take this for what it’s worth, which you may feel is nothing.
But people like your dad are living in and controlled by fear.
What becomes hard to discern is how we are supposed to treat them over it, how do we take it, etc. Who’s fault is it? There’s a couple of ways you can look at this. You can be disappointed and angry at him for his choices here because those choices hurt you. Disappointed because he buys into the bullshit. I’ve certainly felt this towards many in my family. And then anger, too, as some of them have been condescending and shifty in their weakest moments over this shit.
On the other hand, they are victims of abuse on an industrial scale. I mean, we all are, though some of us are resistant when others aren’t. Mental abuse, emotional abuse, and then finally the physical abuse of the vaccine mandates and/or the fact that they are driven by the fear of the emotional/mental abuse into getting the shot. Anyway you want to slice it, those in power have abused all of us in some way, and it has affected some of us more severely than others.
And then both sides of that coin can be true at the same time.
Some shit has been said to me and I have been treated poorly by some in my family over the same issues and my stance on those issues.
I have chosen to view them mostly as victims of a fear campaign. Does it make them weak? Yeah, I think so. But then since when do I abandon a victim of abuse because they’re weak?
I’m not telling you what to do or even trying to imply that you’re an asshole for deciding to part ways. I made my decisions on how to deal with and treat my family after a lot of careful thought..and you know what? It’s a choice I keep having to make every day because it does piss me off when this shit comes up.. though it comes up a lot less now and I think some of them are slowly coming around to the understanding that they were lied to and manipulated.
All I’m saying is, perhaps try to look at it from the perspective of your dad. I’m not saying he is right or was right, I’m saying he’s a scared, lost, old man. And people do shitty things out of fear.
Those of us who actually “get it” and know what’s going behind the scenes have a fucking burden that others don’t carry. It sucks, but it is what it is. Part of that burden is exemplified in what you’ve described with your situation with your dad. And consider that the splitting of families and destruction of relationships is exactly what the cabal wants.
I’m not telling you what to do, I’m just saying really evaluate and consider it, and try to do it with as little emotion as possible if you can. Then make a decision.
All I’m saying is, perhaps try to look at it from the perspective of your dad. I’m not saying he is right or was right, I’m saying he’s a scared, lost, old man. And people do shitty things out of fear.
You're being too generous. If Theo's father said "I didnt invite you to Thanksgiving because you wouldnt take the jab", that would be one thing. A cowardly NPC move, but not evil. That Theo's father repeatedly lied about it is another matter. That's a Sin. Theo confronted his father about it repeatedly and his father not only refused to repent, but continued to lie about it. You cant keep unrepentant Sinners in your life.
People often lie because in their heart of hearts, they know they’re wrong but verbalizing/admitting it is scary to them.
I’m saying that the man isn’t necessarily evil because he lied.
He did what he did because of fear and he lied about it because of his own shame.
I’m not saying it makes it right, to be clear. I’m just saying to carefully weigh everything before making such an impactful life decision.
I think that perhaps Theo is making a decision based on emotions here, and that rarely works out to the benefit of the decision maker. Not that Theo isn’t justified in feeling hurt and angry. He absolutely is.
And yes I’m generous on this, unlike most people here on Poal.
While I realize that some of the opposition is diehard evil, much of those who chose to give in to the fear aren’t evil. They’re simply victims and they’re weak willed.
Those of us who choose to live in our own little bubble and avoid anyone who doesn’t agree with our worldview can certainly do that, and in many ways it’s easier. But it accomplishes nothing. The fact is that we need more people to wake up to support the cause of truth and freedom. It’s very difficult to effect that change if we isolate ourselves from everyone who doesn’t see things the same way. And it’s never a quick turnaround. It takes perseverance.
Like I said, I have dealt with a lot of the same sort of shit from my own family..and I have considered exactly what Theo is considering.
What I ultimately decided was not to cut them off completely, but I do have new boundaries with them that weren’t previously there. So I haven’t looked at it as an “all of nothing” sort of thing..which is tough for me because I’m a very black and white thinker to begin with.
But, I see signs of a turnaround. Much like Theo’s dad, my mother still won’t outright admit she was wrong and that I was right about all this shit, but she’s slowly discovering for herself that I was right. It’s taken two years just to get to this point. About two weeks ago, I became very pissed about this. But then I stepped back and thought that whether or not she’ll ever admit I was right, who knows. And I’m not going to base our entire relationship on that. At the end of the day, I want her to live. So if she finally wakes up fully and never admits fault, at least she woke up and is alive. It isn’t right, per se, but then very few things are.
I can be an example by treating people well to the best of my ability, and to be forgiving.
What I don’t want is for myself, Theo, or any of you to face the day when someone important in your life passes and then I or you regrets how the relationship was and wishes we would have done things differently.
What I don’t want is for myself, Theo, or any of you to face the day when someone important in your life passes and then I or you regrets how the relationship was and wishes we would have done things differently.
Why would Theo have regrets? His father can stop lying at any point and say "I did have Thanksgiving last year and didnt invite you. I lied and told you we didnt have Thanksgiving." Theo has absolutely no control over that - it's 100% in his father's control and there is no subjective gray area about "why" this was done. If someone has 100% control over a Sin like his father does, it'd be immoral for Theo to feel regret over his father's actions. It'd be like me regretting that some crack head robs gas stations. Not my choice, not my responsibility.
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