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I would like to stop drinking. And start working out again( dont get me wrong I could still kick all yalls untrained asses). I dont go out and drink, I dont drink with friends. But its my favorite thing to do. I dont really see anything to replace it. I slowed down alot and remembered why beer never got me fucked up and wtf how expensive it is now.

Anyway no fuckin 12'ers but when there is really nothing to change in your life how do you change?

I would like to stop drinking. And start working out again( dont get me wrong I could still kick all yalls untrained asses). I dont go out and drink, I dont drink with friends. But its my favorite thing to do. I dont really see anything to replace it. I slowed down alot and remembered why beer never got me fucked up and wtf how expensive it is now. Anyway no fuckin 12'ers but when there is really nothing to change in your life how do you change?

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Addiction

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Alcoholism is a choice, not an addiction. As are all drug dependencies. They willingly make that decision, their mind isn't under control of anything abnormal, it's working properly.

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I agree in that it is certainly a choice and that the person will certainly be held responsible.

That's why I listed above the 'works of the flesh.'

If we're not responsible, if it's not a choice, one can't be held responsible, but in the sight of the judge of all the earth we WILL be held responsible and suffer the horrible eternal consequences.

So many call addictions (dependence, habit, whatever you choose to call it) a 'disease' and it relinquishes their responsibility for the crime and the consequences, that's a cop-out.

I'm sure we agree on most of these things, maybe we get lost in the semantics.

I know many recovered alcoholics. When you suffer withdrawal from any substance by abstinence, to me that's an addiction. The brain needs the substance.

I don't know what else to call it, but I'm comfortable with my thinking on the topic.

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...to me that's an addiction.

Doesn't matter what you think or want to be. That isn't an addiction.

The brain needs the substance.

As is normal when you force the brain to 'need' it.

I'm sure we agree on most of these things, maybe we get lost in the semantics.

I would agree except immediately following that you bring it back up. You're wrong, I've sourced this. Alcoholism isn't an addiction.

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What else isn't an 'addiction' to you?