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I would like to stop drinking. And start working out again( dont get me wrong I could still kick all yalls untrained asses). I dont go out and drink, I dont drink with friends. But its my favorite thing to do. I dont really see anything to replace it. I slowed down alot and remembered why beer never got me fucked up and wtf how expensive it is now.

Anyway no fuckin 12'ers but when there is really nothing to change in your life how do you change?

I would like to stop drinking. And start working out again( dont get me wrong I could still kick all yalls untrained asses). I dont go out and drink, I dont drink with friends. But its my favorite thing to do. I dont really see anything to replace it. I slowed down alot and remembered why beer never got me fucked up and wtf how expensive it is now. Anyway no fuckin 12'ers but when there is really nothing to change in your life how do you change?

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You deny God. You'll never stop drinking. You'll die from it, smug right up to the end that you know more than everyone else. To stop, you need humility. You have to admit to yourself that you don't have all the answers, that you don't know more than others, and that you need help. If you can't do that, and open yourself spiritually to allow that help to enter, you are fucked.

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Im fucked

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No, you're not. Or we wouldn't be talking to you.

You're not willing to do what you need to do.

Imagine being MADE willing. To be made willing is the answer.

Be careful, goodnight.

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You don't have to stop drinking, just reduce how much you drink.

I keep myself in check by drinking only high quality expensive liquor, so you would have to ration it and not drink half a bottle at the time. I used this method to reduce how much I smoked and it got me to quit cigarettes all together about 10 years ago. I do miss it sometimes, even after all these years.

I've been training my whole life, so if you are not sure how to get back to working out I'm here if you need any advice or want to design a workout plan.

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"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools."

Ernest Hemmingway

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I read Hemingway's letters recently, and his biography. He was one crazy motherfucker. He kept getting himself seriously injured, because he has some kind of deep-seated death wish that he couldn't admit to, not even to himself. He was drawn to death. That's why he was so eager to go to war, and why he spent so much of his time killing fish and animals. At the end, he lost his marbles completely. One day, he tried to way into the spinning propeller of a plane, but was pulled to safety. He tried several times to kill himself, and finally succeeded. But he had been trying to kill himself all his adult life. His list of serious injuries from "accidents" is epic. He was a hopeless drunk, and toward the end of his life it took his mind away so that he couldn't write. That's what finally pushed him to suicide.

I think that resonates with a lot of the disenfranchised and withdrawn.

What he purveyed was the title of this post. TRUTH.

That was his truth and he fulfilled it.

I'm not talking about the right or wrong of it but the finality of it and for Hemmingway, H.S. Thompson, Sylvia Plath it was the conscious finality

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Yes, I need to read it, just have read bits and pieces.

Meriwether Lewis was screwed up as well, his story is about as crazy.

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You actually think Hemingway was a hopeless drunk?

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He blew his brains out unfortunately.

"Whoredom and new wine take away the heart."

My grandpa was both and he died that way, and young.

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Very strong coffee. Find one that is smooth without the after bite.
I used to go to a near by coffee shop owned by an Army Colonel. Three or four of us would get together in the afternoon and drink strong coffee with a shot of espresso in it. Got introduced to the Long Tall in New Zealand. We would spend a couple of hours solving the worlds problems. We were all entrepreneurs.

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I could scare you out of it.

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lol, sure baby

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I'm serious actually. Drunkenness is one of the 'works of the flesh' just as many other sins, and it will damn you.

>Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

>20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

>21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

"If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire."

Matthew 18:8

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I completely disagree.

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Im pretty sure I said something about 12 steppers. While I respect your beliefs they arent mine.

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You're a weak-willed faggot at best. My niece would fuck you up. You spam to slide threads. You do nothing but try to play the victim of yourself to draw sympathy from poal users who fall for this trash. You neither wanted to nor try to "fix" yourself. You're not incapable, no one is, it's not hard to not drink.

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It certainly is hard to beat an addiction.

But when you try to help this guy he kind of throws it back in your face and ridicules you.

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Addiction

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Accurately identifying persons with addiction is critically important for effectively targeting treatment and harm reduction interventions. Misdiagnosis of addictive disorders can lead to a cascade of negative outcomes, including stigma, discontinuation of needed medications, undue scrutiny of both patients and physicians, and even criminal consequences. A recent study raises significant concerns about the accuracy of diagnosis code data, likely rooted in confusingly-worded International Classification of Diseases (ICD)-9 and ICD-10 codes and a general misunderstanding of the difference between addiction and physiologic dependence. It is hardly surprising that physicians frequently mislabel patients when the ICD terms used to code for addiction are themselves misleading. ICD codes have not been updated to reflect current understanding of addiction, unlike those in the DSM-5. To explore this issue further, this commentary briefly discusses new information regarding coding data inaccuracies, how coding inaccuracies can lead to misdiagnosis, and the dangers of conflating “addiction” with “dependence.” The commentary concludes with a call for the ICD to update their codes to reflect current understanding of addiction.

Alcoholism is a choice, not an addiction. As are all drug dependencies. They willingly make that decision, their mind isn't under control of anything abnormal, it's working properly.

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I agree in that it is certainly a choice and that the person will certainly be held responsible.

That's why I listed above the 'works of the flesh.'

If we're not responsible, if it's not a choice, one can't be held responsible, but in the sight of the judge of all the earth we WILL be held responsible and suffer the horrible eternal consequences.

So many call addictions (dependence, habit, whatever you choose to call it) a 'disease' and it relinquishes their responsibility for the crime and the consequences, that's a cop-out.

I'm sure we agree on most of these things, maybe we get lost in the semantics.

I know many recovered alcoholics. When you suffer withdrawal from any substance by abstinence, to me that's an addiction. The brain needs the substance.

I don't know what else to call it, but I'm comfortable with my thinking on the topic.

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what fun is drinking by yourself?

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Start making your own.

Keep you busy for a while.

Gotta get used to it. You're probably old enough to know by now that you can get used to just about anything.