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I'm not at all saying EV's aren't really bad on resource usage and emissions, but be careful when comparing internal combustion engine vehicles to lithium batter powered vehicles. I have noticed that the typical pro-ICE vs anti-EV argument goes along the lines of comparing and ICE vehicle's emissions to an EV vehicle's total materials production emissions. That's not a fair argument since and ICE vehicle only gets its direct emissions compared to the total production emissions of EV vehicles. Not a correct or fair comparison.

ICE vehicles need to include their entire production and operation resource consumption and emissions if that's what is being compared to on the EV side. When you include the whole package on both sides, neither side is very good. ICE vehicles use plenty of materials that are extremely wasteful or environment affecting. Sure lithium is an easy target to shoot at, but ICE use exotic and rare metals too. There's a fair amount of cobalt, molybdenum, chromium and even rare earth metals found in ICE vehicles. You have to include their production impacts in order to see the "long tail". In some respects, EVs have a shorter tail with fewer resources needed but the impact varies by the materials. It's not easy to get an accurate comparison of the two technologies so making the simple argument of ICE vs EV is kind of moot.

Fan boys to either side are still fanatical even when exposed to the reality that both sides are terrible with resources, emissions and energy consumption.