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Been with this girl for over a year. It's honestly been the most wholesome, reliable and serious relationship I've ever had (I'm in my mid twenties and haven't had many serious relationships). I've been part of this redpilling, awakening process for well over six years now, so when I stumbled across this White women (she's 31) who could take care of herself, cook, be smart, funny, reliable with money, independent and isn't in any way obsessed with her phone or the toxic culture of materialism, and didn't at all seem like she'd rode along the dick carousel most her adult life, well, I looked past her mild looks and saw the person who I wanted to be with. The person who could potentially mother our children and not have to worry about her whoring out on Saturday nights or being a massive cunt because of whatever the digital jew sends through her phone.

So a good year has passed, and we're settling down a bit, but two things have become immensely troublesome for me: the first and most important is that she is not interested, at all, in having children (her reasons being because the world is shit and who would want to raise a child, and because her mother fell terminally ill after her last pregnancy). The second thing is I'm starting to notice that I am less and less attracted to her physically. This may in part be due to the first point, because I do, absolutely, want children while I am relatively young.

So I'm met with this problem, I've found an amazing 5.5/10 women, who I get along with very well and have started settling down with, but her not wanting children at 31 is present and a problem, and her lack of typical attractiveness is becoming more and more flagrant and I'm starting to feel really shit about having these thoughts. It's just, and this sounds awful, but I never have a moment where she walks through the door and I think to myself "Holy shit she's gorgeous". That just never happens and I'm thinking fuck, I don't like where this is going.

And for context, I hate to suck my own dick, but this is also a problem that I myself am far from unattractive. I workout regularly, have a decent paying job, and do emit alpha tendencies (the redpilling has done wonders to mental strength and rigidity). I often get flirted with or get looks when out, and I can't help feel that I'm not in a position where it would be too hard to find a mate who is more attractive and wants kids.

There I said it.

Been with this girl for over a year. It's honestly been the most wholesome, reliable and serious relationship I've ever had (I'm in my mid twenties and haven't had many serious relationships). I've been part of this redpilling, awakening process for well over six years now, so when I stumbled across this White women (she's 31) who could take care of herself, cook, be smart, funny, reliable with money, independent and isn't in any way obsessed with her phone or the toxic culture of materialism, and didn't at all seem like she'd rode along the dick carousel most her adult life, well, I looked past her mild looks and saw the person who I wanted to be with. The person who could potentially mother our children and not have to worry about her whoring out on Saturday nights or being a massive cunt because of whatever the digital jew sends through her phone. So a good year has passed, and we're settling down a bit, but two things have become immensely troublesome for me: the first and most important is that she is not interested, at all, in having children (her reasons being because the world is shit and who would want to raise a child, and because her mother fell terminally ill after her last pregnancy). The second thing is I'm starting to notice that I am less and less attracted to her physically. This may in part be due to the first point, because I do, absolutely, want children while I am relatively young. So I'm met with this problem, I've found an amazing 5.5/10 women, who I get along with very well and have started settling down with, but her not wanting children at 31 is present and a problem, and her lack of typical attractiveness is becoming more and more flagrant and I'm starting to feel really shit about having these thoughts. It's just, and this sounds awful, but I never have a moment where she walks through the door and I think to myself "Holy shit she's gorgeous". That just never happens and I'm thinking fuck, I don't like where this is going. And for context, I hate to suck my own dick, but this is also a problem that I myself am far from unattractive. I workout regularly, have a decent paying job, and do emit alpha tendencies (the redpilling has done wonders to mental strength and rigidity). I often get flirted with or get looks when out, and I can't help feel that I'm not in a position where it would be too hard to find a mate who is more attractive and wants kids. There I said it.

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[–] 24 pts (edited )

If she doesn't want to have kids you should break it off. Assuming you are Caucasian, go marry another that has a high IQ/isn't completely psycho and have 7+ kids. We're an endangered species and being hunted/blended out. Job 1 is to have at least 3 kids and raise them correctly.

[–] 11 pts

Three kids is the absolute minimum whites should have. Five is better.

[–] 2 pts

I wish when I was having kids that I knew then what I do now. I would have had 6 kids.

[–] 6 pts

Herein lies the problem: the dating pool. It's getting smaller and smaller every day. Sure, you'd like a better partner, wouldn't we all? So, what are your prospects? As you find yourself getting older, women start hooking up and start families. If they become available again, you now have other children to contend with. Women leaving the education camps have been mentally destroyed for decades. They've been brainwashed into miscegenation, LGBT acceptance, body acceptance, tattoos, pink hair, the whole gamut. Hell, women don't even know if they're women anymore!

It's going to be a rough ride. You live in a very fucked up Joe Biden world.

Godspeed!

[–] 6 pts

Trying to find a girl who ticks most of the good boxes AND isn't mRNA'd sounds like quite the difficult task without having tried yet. The dating pool is extremely weird and full of shit for brains with the current digital/material culture.

[–] 5 pts

Pay for a matchmaking service and don't limit yourself to the US if you have to. Plenty of based women from eastern europe who are gorgeous.

[–] 7 pts

Plenty of based women from eastern europe who are gorgeous.

And they'll marry you, get citizenship, empty your bank account and use the money to bring their boyfriend Boris to the United States.

[–] 1 pt

And outside the country.

[–] 1 pt

Just move out then. If you bring them in they'll covert in part or whole to western "feminism".

[–] 7 pts

Sounds like you already know what to do. If you want kids and she insists on none, that's a perfectly valid reason to move on.

Personally, I can deal with an ugly face if she has a fit body. Touching a woman both ugly and fat makes me want to hurl.

[–] 3 pts

Personally, I can deal with an ugly face if she has a fit body.

Same. Unless it is greasy pizza face...then I just can't. Even severe facial burn scares are okay as long as she has a great body and takes care of herself.

Women need to realize how important an attractive body is. All that money on makeup, clothes, and lotions and all they have to do is eat better and workout. Wasting so much money on all that crap when they just need to eat less junk and do more exercise.

[–] 6 pts

If she won't have your children, dump her. It's a certain sign that she doesn't really care about you, only about herself. Any woman who loves a man wants to bear his children. It's a biological imperative.

[–] 2 pts

I dunno, losing your mother to childbirth related illness is fuckin something

[–] 2 pts

Yeah it’s something. It’s a dealbreaker. Legitimate or not, childbearing is a necessity.

[–] 5 pts

the first and most important is that she is not interested, at all, in having children

She's a fundamentally broken person. This alone is a relationship terminator.

[–] 5 pts

I dated one chick who was ugly. Not even just unattractive. Ugly. But we clicked in every personality aspect, had all the same interests, she was very open sexually to anything we'd try, was funny, smart enough to have a deep conversation. But at the end of the day, her flat tits, huge nose, and other physical aspects just overtook any other pluses she had and I had to break up with her. See, men are visual. It's hard wired into us. Does that make you or me feel shallow and vapid in this situation? Absolutely. But dating someone who looks like Gilbert Godfrey in a dress will eventually make you stray and want more. Find someone who you enjoy looking at. There's no such thing as perfect.

[–] 2 pts

I feel in love with a chick who was butt ugly except she was beautiful in my eyes. She was the nicest kindest person, but had her heart set on another. I would have wifed her regardless of facial looks, killer body though. I used to dream about her all the time. I never dreamt of other women like I did about her.

[–] 2 pts

I feel like some old Poalers should weigh in on this one. Any 60+ in here?

[–] 4 pts

You are growing older. If there is no future break it off now

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[–] 3 pts

You're a shallow weak willed person. All women are ugly given enough time. You're conceited, insecure, and vain and you think you deserve better by the definition of social standards. That's not alpha at all.

If you dont love this chick then don't be with her. Which you don't. Otherwise she would be beautiful to you. Which she isn't.

You need to grow up more before you have children or you will raise retarded babies that make the same mistakes you are right now. You went looking for a set of ideals and you found some you settled for. Stop looking. When you are looking for a need to be filled you will find someone willing to fill them as long as you fill their needs. That's not love. That's mutual using. When you stop looking and become yourself you won't settle for anyone who isn't also a whole person.

Kids are important. They are vital. But women are stupid and easily swayed. If she is a hard no on kids that means she refuses to have kids with YOU. And probably for good reason. You need to grow up and drop your need for external acceptance and approval and squash that entitlement that is currently oozing out of you. You don't deserve anything. You need to earn it by becoming a person who doesn't need anything.

[–] 2 pts

Damn dude that opening sentence is harsh AF. I'm just pushing 25, I don't really know shit about anything life/family/relationship related, I'm just experiencing what comes my way and know wholeheartedly that I want kids with someone. I only just started to realize last year what I want to do with my life (career wise) and am on track to carry that through because I committed to it. It's only in the last like 2-3 days that I've started having the thoughts that I laid out in the post, that's after a year of being with this chick, having a great time and waiting to see if she wants it to develop into a family (or anything beyond companionship). Trust me this chick didn't want kids waaay before me and she's hard-lined on it for whatever reasons she has. Oh and the "I think I deserve better by the definition of social standards" is retarded. In reality it's got hardly anything to do with what society deems beautiful and so much more in-line with her not wanting the same lifestyle as me, therefore bringing out the bad in her. I dunno I don't feel entitled to a better woman, this one is amazing, I just want one who's not about to hit the wall and is on the same level.

[–] 0 pt

The wall exists for all women. Beauty is a fleeting thing. If you are just figuring out this stuff that's great that you ARE figuring it out. Kids are important and of course she is hardliners against it they try every brainwashing technique in the book to get white people to have less children thats not her fault. You can change that easily. Her biological clock is about to start ticking HARD. Pill her. Show her the constant push for no kids by the media.

Miscegenation Carefree life Burden of children Environmental impact Social impact Fiscal stability Etc

They use EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE reason to convince white women not to breed with white men. And only white women. She will change quickly if you can show her that. But that's not the real issue.

You dont love her bud. You don't know what love is abd that's ok it takes years of fucking up to figure out what's really important to you unless you're incredibly lottery rich lucky. And a lot of the times you realize what you had after it's gone.

So take a moment, and think about it. Is this person someone you would enjoy talking to wheb you're both 80? When you're both old and weak and broken and fat. When all the stories have been told. When all the things have been done. When there's nothing left to do or say, would you still enjoy her company? If so then wake up. Have a real conversation. Show her you're serious. And be the alpha conqueror provider you are meant to be.

If not, then go out and live your life brother. Do some soul searching and some growing and some living and experience new things. Find out what it is that's truly important to you and then don't settle for less. It may mean you are alone more often than not, but if you aren't happy being alone how can you expect to be happy with someone else?

Good luck.

[–] 1 pt

Thanks brother. Good response I needed to hear.

[–] 3 pts

Tell her kids are a deal breaker. Either she agrees to have 4 or it's off. There's no other selfish purpose for you to be with her. Then find a nice well built, with good hips, woman to procreate with and start a family.

[–] 3 pts

I don't think you have anything to feel bad about here. She's an adult, she can handle a breakup.

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