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Quitting sugar is amazing. It's been years since I quit sugar. I don't need sweets anymore. The taste of sugar makes me sick. I drink coffee or tea with milk instead of sugar, and this is enough. I am living like my ancestors. Highly recommend quitting sugar. You will start tasting the sweet in natural products and will never want sugar anymore.

Quitting sugar is amazing. It's been years since I quit sugar. I don't need sweets anymore. The taste of sugar makes me sick. I drink coffee or tea with milk instead of sugar, and this is enough. I am living like my ancestors. Highly recommend quitting sugar. You will start tasting the sweet in natural products and will never want sugar anymore.

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>Sugar isn't more evil when separated from the plant fiber

Yeah, probably only in that it's rendered a more consumable form (processed, for example sodas, which of course drinking carbs is the worst way to consume them).

>Drinking a glass of orange juice is no better than eating a candy bar.

No, not much, but there are factors that would make it better, like it's natural, contains vitamins and nutrients. It's more of a whole food. Processed and concentrated renders things, otherwise, more so.

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Why are you obsessed with this "natural" thing? C&H straight from the bag is just as natural as sugar in orange juice. It's just crystalized juice from sugar cane. In fact, it's probably a tiny bit better because it has less fructose, which is particularly evil metabolically.

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>Why are you obsessed with this "natural" thing?

I wouldn't make the case that someone (me) is 'obsessed' with something based on a few internet forum board statements.

Sugar cane. But it's processed, not in a whole food form. I would think that's the only problem with it. Again, easier to consume and more tempting to consume more because of that (that would be the 'problem' with it).

I would look at a link if you'd like to send it that would help make clear what you are saying.

You wouldn't say that the same calories in processed sugar are just as 'healthy' for you as the equivalent in a glass of juice would you?

Again, you can direct me to more info if you like.

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You wouldn't say that the same calories in processed sugar are just as 'healthy' for you as the equivalent in a glass of juice would you?

I would say they are indistinguishable from a health standpoint. Drinking 1 cup of orange juice gives you 21 grams of sugar. That is no more healthy than eating 21 grams of table sugar. Where the sugar comes from doesn't change the harm it does in your body. Saying, "Yeah, but there were some vitamins in the orange juice" is irrelevant. The sugar does its damage just the same. It doesn't matter what else you're eating with the sugar.