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Quitting sugar is amazing. It's been years since I quit sugar. I don't need sweets anymore. The taste of sugar makes me sick. I drink coffee or tea with milk instead of sugar, and this is enough. I am living like my ancestors. Highly recommend quitting sugar. You will start tasting the sweet in natural products and will never want sugar anymore.

Quitting sugar is amazing. It's been years since I quit sugar. I don't need sweets anymore. The taste of sugar makes me sick. I drink coffee or tea with milk instead of sugar, and this is enough. I am living like my ancestors. Highly recommend quitting sugar. You will start tasting the sweet in natural products and will never want sugar anymore.

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[–] • 9 pts

Yes, I need to do this, have regressed lately.

[–] • 1 pt

It is good, it getting back on sugar is good too… homemade ice cream you milked yourself, fresh jams of perfectly ripe fruit, syrups for fizzy drinks. Dang. It’s a rollercoaster.

[–] • 3 pts

My understanding is that all sugars and starches are natural. It makes no difference if you chew on sugar cane or gobble white sugar with a spoon. Sure, you have to chew on a lot of cane to equal the same amount of sugar that you can fit in a spoon, but the sugar chemical is the same. It makes no difference.

The same goes for all starch foods like bread, potatoes and rice.

It gets even crazier. If you eat too much protein, excess protein gets converted to sugar as well and stored. When I read about people putting jam on bread it reads to me like they are putting cocaine on crack. It tastes good but you are not supposed to be consuming that.

[–] • 1 pt

When I was forced to deal with celiac (I blame glyphosate) I stopped eating so much grain, and zero wheat. The difference is amazing. I felt 10 years younger the first year. Im considered old, still mistaken for a young person. I gave up on med insurance years back when I realized I hadn’t used it for over 5 years. Proper natural things, proper balance. It’s the control group for humanity.

[–] • 1 pt

Yes, natural is the key (but even the Bible says too much honey is not good lol).

Help. I need willpower.

My kid has a milk cow, they make Kefir and other stuff.

[–] • 2 pts

Sugar is natural. So is hemlock and oleander. That doesn't make it good for you.

[–] • 1 pt

I always assume these kinds of things to mean processed sugars

[–] • 1 pt

Every time I see your username: https://pic8.co/sh/bXNcrj.png

[–] • 0 pt

Lol, I know, it's kinda dumb.

I grabbed it out of the air one night, spur of the moment, after lurking for a year on Voat and then deciding to take part.

Has nothing to do with the singer that was killed with Buddy Holly.

[–] • 0 pt

But does it have to do with Mr Belding??

[–] • 2 pts

Same. I went to sugar free (naturals like monk fruit) substitutes and now regular sugar tastes horrible and my body rejects it.

Next step: kick the Zyn nicotine habit

[–] • 1 pt

Monkfruit sweetener is amazing because it is so close to normal sugar. You really have to pay attention to notice the difference.

I did read that there is a downside to even things like Monkfruit sweeteners, and it has to do with signalling. So, while we are not getting the negative effects of too much sugar, we are still signalling to our brain that we are consuming sweets and that turns on and off various subsystems in our bodies that still potentiall cause issues.

One thought on this is that we evolved to consume as much sugar as possible because it was only ever available for a couple of weeks at the end of the summer. This sounds normal until you realize that this was a signal to the brain that the END OF SUMMER is here and that winter is coming where there is no food. So, through evolutionary selection, sugars never ended up triggering satiation signals in our bodies allowing us to consume as much as possible in order to fatten up for the long winter of nothing.

If you read up on sugar, sugar has no satiation point. You can only eat so much fat, meat, protein and green veg because they trigger satiation points and your body stops you from consuming. Sugar? It has none. Sugar keeps you eating.

Anyway, the problem with Monkfruit is that it has none of the chemical effects BUT it is still signalling sweet to our brains which is thought to trigger all kinds of things including the primary signal that starvation is around the corner.

This is all speculation though, just stuff I read.

[–] • 2 pts

It's hard to get all sugar out of your diet unless you're only eating meat and veggies and no fruit at all. I've been cutting back the sugar a lot and I'm still finding in foods I'm eating just with different names. But yes you do start feeling so much better when you get rid of the sugar out of your main diet.

[–] • 1 pt

Correct.

It is way harder than you describe though. Our bodies can burn only two types of fuel: sugar and fat.

What happens is that if you eat a lot of starches, our bodies become adapted to burning sugar and teaching your body to start to burn fat can take anywhere from 2 weeks to more than 3 months depending on the person and how insulin resistant they have become.

It kinda hurts to actually re-adapt your body to burning fat. It isn't hard but you have to keep at it because our entire food system has been modified to push starches (sugar) foods.

Asking people to become fat adapted is like asking a crack addict to stop using when all they have is crack in their fridge, their friends and neighbours only have crack in their fridge, the corner stores have crack on the shelves, food stores sell 85% crack on shelves and only put the good stuff on the outside isles and have shit selection of that and so forth.

[–] • 0 pt

Dude All vegetables are sugar.

Learn this shit.

There are only two types of sugar that matter at all. Those we can digest. (starch) Those we can't(fibre)

Leafy greens are skewed to have more fibre than starch.

But that is the kicker. Fibre passes straight through us. May as well eat dirt. We don't need fibre at all.

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[–] • 0 pt

I am pretty sure that we need fiber to feed good gut bacteria.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

Wait until you find out all carbohydrates are sugar. The only difference is how long the chain of sugar molecules is. Once digested they're all glucose in your blood. 100 grams of sugar or 100 grams of "good" carbs is still 100 grams of sugar in your blood stream, where it causes metabolic disorders and diseases related to sugar metabolism like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, diabetes, obesity, and heart disease. Those are just the big ones. Then there's dental cavities, oxidative stress, glycated triglycerides, and all kinds of other bad stuff. Carbohydrates are poison.

[–] • 0 pt

Are you a 'calorie in calorie out' guy, all calories are the same?

[–] • 0 pt

That depends on what you mean by "calories in." Some things are more digestible than others. For example, humans can't digest wood. You can eat 1,000 tons of wood and you won't gain an ounce once you shit it out.

[–] • 0 pt

That's right, I know that the topic is argued a lot.

Surely though consuming 100 calories of processed table sugar is less healthy than consuming it via a glass of real juice.

[–] • 1 pt

There is no reason to eat candy or drink soda which is just concentrated sucrose. However a small amount of sugar is in lots of foods from bread to tomato sauce (to cut acidity) to baked beans. Small amounts like that are fine.

[–] • 0 pt

Always thought baked beans were pretty syrupy, but still ok

[–] • 0 pt

They're full of sugar of course.

[–] • 0 pt

But, but I kind of like those things.

[–] • 1 pt

You quit ALL forms of sugar, right? Bread? Cereal? All starches like potatoes, rice, grains?

Look into removing vegetable oild and replace them with good oils like animal and coconut oils.

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Well done! Takes a lot to overcome such an ubiquitous substance that we've consumed since childhood.

[–] • 0 pt

Once you notice it, it is kind of amazing how much of our food system is nothing but starches.

[–] • 1 pt

How long does it take to get to the point where you don’t like it and your tastebuds change?

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Not a lot. After a quit for some months, the taste of sweet become repulsive.

Sugar is not a natural need. It's forced on you in childhood.

[–] • 0 pt

For me it was probably 6 months for it to officially taste as bad. However that was like 10 years ago and I was keeled over severe ill so I was able to identify if something had sugar very quick, but I might not have been registering taste at all since I was too ill to think about it.

[–] • 0 pt

Your ancestors had honey, dates, figs, ripe fruit and berries. And they had sugar. Sugar was invented 2500 years ago in South-east Asia, and spread through Europe from China and the Middle East in the 13th century. Sugar is good energy food. That's why the body likes it.

[–] • 0 pt

Sugar is bad for you unless you are dying.

Sugar is made by plants with photosynthesis. We never I vented it you idiot.

Our ancestors ate meat and occasionally came across small seasonal bitter fruits. A big issue is modern varieties have significantly more digestible sugars

Honey. Pah rare or never for most.

[–] • 0 pt

I have a child and work long hours. Sugar is my friend.

When I can sleep properly I don't need it though.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

If you quit, you no longer need it.

[–] • 0 pt

Eh I do a LOT of manual labour and I need calories in a small form factor.

I can go through 1/2 kg of sweets, 10 choc bars, 4 sandwiches and a massive dinner and still lose weight every day.

If I had to eat that as normal food I'd be crippled every time I bent over.

[–] • 0 pt

An important lesson for you to keep in mind is that even if you can burn it off, it's still bad for you.

I worked construction in the heat and did nothing but eat 1-2 Tbsp chunks of straight butter, and/or nut butter and drank 2-4 liters of mostly water and a diy Gatorade made from ACV, salt, lime juice and water. I had more energy than I knew what to do with and cognitive performance was night and day better.

Consider LCHF. If you're doing it right it does take a week or two to get your body and metabolism to basically switch over but it's a better option for someone like you looking for energy and endurance.

[–] • 0 pt

It’s overall reducing your energy not giving it.

[–] • 0 pt

Absolutely. Once you have truly kicked and repopulated you gut microbiome with flora that don't have the need to feed on a steady stream of sucrose bedecked jelly donuts, it's awesome how your taste buds accordingly adjust.

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