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What I mean by "reality" is a job where objective reality was non-negotiable. Where if you ignored facts in favor of feels you'd die, be inprisoned, or be fired and there was no squirming out of it with wordplay or sophistry.

e.g. were you an electrician? Try arguing with a 20amp circuit about whether that plug should be male or female and your heart will stop.

Were you a lumberjack? Try calling a tree names to prevent it from falling on you.

Were you a mechanic? Try replacing those lug nuts with recycled environmentally friendly soy paste and see how long it takes for that wheel to fly off and kill someone and land you in prison for manslaughter.

Were you a mechanical engineer? Try telling a client that your steel should be held to a lower tensile strength because you're a POC, and then explaining why you shouldn't go to prison when it fails and drops a bridge on someone.

Were you the short order cook at Bubba's Fish Shack? Try telling a fryer full of boiling oil that you identify as burn proof and stick your hand in it.

None of this loosy-goosey NGO nonsense where everything's negotiable based upon your verbal skills and everything's an opinion. I just can't trust someone unless they worked with hard realities where the consequence of feels over reals was absolute and unavoidable.

What I mean by "reality" is a job where objective reality was non-negotiable. Where if you ignored facts in favor of feels you'd *die*, be inprisoned, or be fired and there was no squirming out of it with wordplay or sophistry. e.g. were you an electrician? Try arguing with a 20amp circuit about whether that plug should be male or female and your heart will stop. Were you a lumberjack? Try calling a tree names to prevent it from falling on you. Were you a mechanic? Try replacing those lug nuts with recycled environmentally friendly soy paste and see how long it takes for that wheel to fly off and kill someone and land you in prison for manslaughter. Were you a mechanical engineer? Try telling a client that your steel should be held to a lower tensile strength because you're a POC, and then explaining why you shouldn't go to prison when it fails and drops a bridge on someone. Were you the short order cook at Bubba's Fish Shack? Try telling a fryer full of boiling oil that *you* identify as burn proof and stick your hand in it. None of this loosy-goosey NGO nonsense where everything's negotiable based upon your verbal skills and everything's an opinion. I just can't trust someone unless they worked with hard realities where the consequence of feels over reals was absolute and unavoidable.

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This goes for every government job ever.

The worst kind of liberal is the kind that works for the government or a company that works for the government. They have no concept of needing to please a customer. In the real world, lets say retail, every employee is aware of how many customers they have each day, and they know the number of customers and sales directly affects the hours they get next week. They must be productive during their shift, or else.

Gov employees have no concept of this. They exist solely in the idea space of "it I work and the work I do is morally good work, I am entitled to my pay and why wouldn't I get paid. "

The idea that trying hard is not related to making money is completely outside their understanding.

[–] 1 pt

Government workers just don't give a fuck. The ones I have interacted with as a "customer" (DMV, Postal (sort of government), police, jail, other tax collectors/recordskeepers) don't imagine themselves as good employees, though I would say they feel they are entitled to their pay. They realize that there is a bare minimum that is going to keep them employed, and then they try to cheat to do even less than that. Beyond that they do seem to enjoy telling people "no" but don't seem to enjoy getting yelled at. (Other) loud niggers and squeaky people get some grease. People who act like a normal business customer don't get very far.