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What I mean by "reality" is a job where objective reality was non-negotiable. Where if you ignored facts in favor of feels you'd die, be inprisoned, or be fired and there was no squirming out of it with wordplay or sophistry.

e.g. were you an electrician? Try arguing with a 20amp circuit about whether that plug should be male or female and your heart will stop.

Were you a lumberjack? Try calling a tree names to prevent it from falling on you.

Were you a mechanic? Try replacing those lug nuts with recycled environmentally friendly soy paste and see how long it takes for that wheel to fly off and kill someone and land you in prison for manslaughter.

Were you a mechanical engineer? Try telling a client that your steel should be held to a lower tensile strength because you're a POC, and then explaining why you shouldn't go to prison when it fails and drops a bridge on someone.

Were you the short order cook at Bubba's Fish Shack? Try telling a fryer full of boiling oil that you identify as burn proof and stick your hand in it.

None of this loosy-goosey NGO nonsense where everything's negotiable based upon your verbal skills and everything's an opinion. I just can't trust someone unless they worked with hard realities where the consequence of feels over reals was absolute and unavoidable.

What I mean by "reality" is a job where objective reality was non-negotiable. Where if you ignored facts in favor of feels you'd *die*, be inprisoned, or be fired and there was no squirming out of it with wordplay or sophistry. e.g. were you an electrician? Try arguing with a 20amp circuit about whether that plug should be male or female and your heart will stop. Were you a lumberjack? Try calling a tree names to prevent it from falling on you. Were you a mechanic? Try replacing those lug nuts with recycled environmentally friendly soy paste and see how long it takes for that wheel to fly off and kill someone and land you in prison for manslaughter. Were you a mechanical engineer? Try telling a client that your steel should be held to a lower tensile strength because you're a POC, and then explaining why you shouldn't go to prison when it fails and drops a bridge on someone. Were you the short order cook at Bubba's Fish Shack? Try telling a fryer full of boiling oil that *you* identify as burn proof and stick your hand in it. None of this loosy-goosey NGO nonsense where everything's negotiable based upon your verbal skills and everything's an opinion. I just can't trust someone unless they worked with hard realities where the consequence of feels over reals was absolute and unavoidable.

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For awhile a worked on military aircraft. Lesson 1 is there is no such thing as an 'accident'. Either pilot tried a maneuver the plane wasn't capable of, the mechanic didn't repair or inspect the plane adequately, if a part failed it was either not inspected before use or incorrectly installed, or was not manufactured to spec. There was a log book with every plane that listed every part, and who installed it, and who inspected that it was done correctly.

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I hated getting red Xs signed off. The bread truck was always on the other side of the flightline.

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Roach coach faggot

The roach coach was the food truck

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Or someone forgot to secure a heavy load and weight shifted on takeoff.

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That'd be the load masters fault

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The one at Bagram airbase was horrible.

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You're talking about abstraction. The further abstracted you are from reality, the more nonsense you can get away with.

Or as Lindsay said, reality is the thing you run into when your ideas are wrong

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This goes for every government job ever.

The worst kind of liberal is the kind that works for the government or a company that works for the government. They have no concept of needing to please a customer. In the real world, lets say retail, every employee is aware of how many customers they have each day, and they know the number of customers and sales directly affects the hours they get next week. They must be productive during their shift, or else.

Gov employees have no concept of this. They exist solely in the idea space of "it I work and the work I do is morally good work, I am entitled to my pay and why wouldn't I get paid. "

The idea that trying hard is not related to making money is completely outside their understanding.

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Government workers just don't give a fuck. The ones I have interacted with as a "customer" (DMV, Postal (sort of government), police, jail, other tax collectors/recordskeepers) don't imagine themselves as good employees, though I would say they feel they are entitled to their pay. They realize that there is a bare minimum that is going to keep them employed, and then they try to cheat to do even less than that. Beyond that they do seem to enjoy telling people "no" but don't seem to enjoy getting yelled at. (Other) loud niggers and squeaky people get some grease. People who act like a normal business customer don't get very far.

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Were you a mechanical engineer? Try telling a client that your steel should be held to a lower tensile strength because you're a POC, and then explaining why you shouldn't go to prison when it fails and drops a bridge on someone.

Bridges are designed by civil engineers and many places have made mechanical engineers change material specs on drawing to "or approved substitute" because the Chinese claim to have the same material but don't have the certified testing to prove it. "You wike 6160 aruminums? We gots it no papa. same same"

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Or approved substitute that meets or exceeds "certified testing standard".

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Great observation.

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I've operated a meat slicer and made sandwiches; does that count?

Used a single bit with an if statement to decide whether or not to assert a safety mechanism, and a cosmic ray flew in at just the right time to flip the bit false, thus causing some disaster that took someone's life?

Yeah, that shit really can and does happen.

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Hence why ECC RAM exists.

Not used in the majority of embedded systems, though.

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>I don't trust people who've never worked a job where reality was absolute

Yeah me too I trust cops /s

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Cops are problematic due to qualified immunity. If Bubba undercooks some pork at his diner and kills someone, it's manslaughter. If Officer Jackboots shoots someone for contempt of cop...muy union, muy qualified immunity, muy feels.

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I don't think their so called qualified immunity is of any use when bullets start flying at them

It's not exactly the safest job in the world, there's a part involving "absolute reality", such as getting killed

Now we could talk about the military; is it wise to trust a statement by a soldier just because his job involves a couple of lethal risks... Spies also, it's not necessarily the safest job in the world, but is that reason enough to trust/take what one them says at face value for instance? Of course not

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It's not exactly the safest job in the world

No more dangerous than driving a taxi. For the same reason too.

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'Bubba's Fish Shack' is a place I would eat every day

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I don't trust people, but I'll be friendly and hope for the best from each one I meet while bracing for the worst.

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I had a mishap as a cook, hand went in the deep fryer. That sucked. Finished my shift though.

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