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Commercial pilots say otherwise, they can't fly 600 mph at sea level, per the official story, they would break apart. They certainly aren't capable of the acrobatics claimed.

As I say, according to many pilots. If you say otherwise, what source do you have? I would change my mind if shown I'm wrong.

>You have an established history of admitted ignorance of all things science.

Right, because your math works better than my eyeballs.

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they can't fly 600 mph at sea level

sea level

Of course not. They would be in the water if on the sea or buried under ground if on the land.

No plane flies at sea level. We call those boats.

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The speeds were not 600mph. They were 400 somethings, iirc.

Pilots are not engineers. They have their POH which sets limits for safety and engine/airframe longevity.

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Well I dunno, I've heard many of them say that the official speeds given (govt.) at that height were impossible.

It wouldn't be wise to dismiss them because they're not engineers, in my opinion.

It's been a while, I should look into it again. All I care about is the truth.

"Truth is the daughter of time, it will not always lie hid" something like that.

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Well I dunno, I've heard many of them say that the official speeds given (govt.) at that height were impossible.

You heard morons repeating morons. The radar speeds clearly show them flying much slower.

The primary speed limit is the front windows because of bird strikes. They limit speed for safety considerations until an altitude where fewer bird strikes occur. Most are at take off and landing where they are already speed limited inside the airspace for safety anyways.

Additionally, the turbines and airframe have structural considerations as well as fuel consumption considerations, at lower altitudes. Exceeding these limits considerably stress everything while drastically increasing fuel burn (dense air means lots of fuel in a rich burn mode because ramping up rpm). Of course the POH is doing to be very conservative here.

Structurally the aircraft can travel 400-500 mph at lower altitudes with significant turbine and structural stress concerns. However control flutter kicks in within this lower range. So as you approach 500 mph, control is very iffy.

In other words, the aircraft could easily obtain the impact speeds and control required for impacts.