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It is common to try to justify yourself as sane to add weight to your arguments in a sane society. After all, if you are crazy and disjointed from reality or logic, why should anyone listen to your conclusions? But people make the mistake of thinking this pattern carries over to an insane society, and they waste a lot of effort running in loops trying to chase the infeasable often as a preliminary to truly expressing themselves and their message.

Many of these people in minor positions like school board member, and even many in major positions, are not people you have a responsibility to reason with. They openly admit to wanting a reduction in the ethnic group that represents the majority in this country and act like you are insane or dangerous for opposing it. That's genocide. That's openly genocide. It's the actual textbook definition. And they will call you insane for labeling it as such despite that being as close to the textbook definition you can get. They will never concede your sanity in speaking the truth because to do so would be to self indict themselves as exactly what they are and what you claim. It would be suicide on their part to concede the sanity of a sane person.

That is not to say that the solution is to move past reason. But it is important to note who is worth trying to get on the same page with. It is completely reasonable to try to get on the same page as someone you disagree with or even someone you don't think is currently rational, but people who are seeking your distruction from a position of authority and attempt to gaslight you by calling you insane are not people to waste energy justifying yourself to them. If you find yourself before them waste zero time trying to establish yourself before them. Give them your message. Communication with them should be unidirectional. Absolutely refuse to consider the arguments of the insane. Their words are a wind moving past your ears, and society would be benefited if that was the case for all people. They want you to be ignored but the sooner we all ignored them and wrote them off as too unhinged to listen to the better.

Another way of looking at it is that it is normal for people in society to collectively negotiate with one another what is reasonable and what sanity is. Letting them be a part of that negotiation is a mistake.

It is common to try to justify yourself as sane to add weight to your arguments in a sane society. After all, if you are crazy and disjointed from reality or logic, why should anyone listen to your conclusions? But people make the mistake of thinking this pattern carries over to an insane society, and they waste a lot of effort running in loops trying to chase the infeasable often as a preliminary to truly expressing themselves and their message. Many of these people in minor positions like school board member, and even many in major positions, are not people you have a responsibility to reason with. They openly admit to wanting a reduction in the ethnic group that represents the majority in this country and act like you are insane or dangerous for opposing it. That's genocide. That's openly genocide. It's the actual textbook definition. And they will call you insane for labeling it as such despite that being as close to the textbook definition you can get. They will never concede your sanity in speaking the truth because to do so would be to self indict themselves as exactly what they are and what you claim. It would be suicide on their part to concede the sanity of a sane person. That is not to say that the solution is to move past reason. But it is important to note who is worth trying to get on the same page with. It is completely reasonable to try to get on the same page as someone you disagree with or even someone you don't think is currently rational, but people who are seeking your distruction from a position of authority and attempt to gaslight you by calling you insane are not people to waste energy justifying yourself to them. If you find yourself before them waste zero time trying to establish yourself before them. Give them your message. Communication with them should be unidirectional. Absolutely refuse to consider the arguments of the insane. Their words are a wind moving past your ears, and society would be benefited if that was the case for all people. They want you to be ignored but the sooner we all ignored them and wrote them off as too unhinged to listen to the better. Another way of looking at it is that it is normal for people in society to collectively negotiate with one another what is reasonable and what sanity is. Letting them be a part of that negotiation is a mistake.

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Essentially all debates are not to convince the other party that they are in the wrong and to set it right - it is to convince the bystanders or viewers of said debate. It's why if you ever are forced to debate with the insane, staying calm and making the insane look insane is the most important thing to do. Trolling or mocking them also works wonders too. It's far better to ignore them though - if you ignore a narcissist they will lose their shit.

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I think the issue is that debate is not the only reason why people express themselves. Communication itself has value. Caring about the other person's perspective rather than only thinking about everything in terms of what a conversation looks like externally is a healthy thing to do when talking to healthy people. The problem is a lot of these people who try to speak to school board members and end up frustrated make the mistake thinking they can have constructive communication with a school board member, or that constructive communication would follow the same patters as communicating with most other people. I think communication still can be constructive. It just changes. But thinking about the audience is important, because really, ideally, they are actually the ones you are having a conversation with because having a conversation with an insane person who is vested in insanity not only is unproductive but you have an obligation to lop them out of the conversation because letting them be a part of it will only harm society and reason.

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Would you debate a termite? No, you'd simply get rid of it because it arouses no emotion to do so and that is the obvious solution. Trying to talk to a bunch of termites would be seen as idiotic.

Nearly every problem in nature is solved this way and yet men believe that problems with two legged parasites are solved another way. Since when has that ever been the case? Never.

Every interaction with an adversary can only end two ways.

  1. You kill them
  2. They kill you

There is no other possible outcome.

So far, they've been killing you by the millions, the "debates" are a distraction to keep you occupied while they finish the job.

It doesn't matter what is said, only what is done.

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The small elite who took control of our media have been shoving the perverts and loonies down our throats for decades. They get a massively greater public voice than they ever deserved. That's why it so hard to ignore them.

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Do not cast pearls before swine.

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Daily Reminder that our enemy had to infiltrate our institutions, brainwash our kids, and attack & murder us sporadically & randomly because they are too cowardly to attack us openly on a war footing. Because they know what will happen.

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I'm clearly insane, since all my beliefs run 180 degrees contrary to most of the people I meet. If I'm the only sane person I know, that automatically makes me insane.

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Argue with a madman.

Yes.

Who would want to do such a frivolous thing...

Its enough to make a person question their own sanity, isn't it?

But then you'd end up arguing with yourself, which is neither her nor there.

No, I know I'm not insane. That's why I'm always in agreement with myself.

Perfect agreement with all the voices.

We all agree on what to do next.

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This is why I say don’t argue just give facts

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(I am normal.)

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If we don’t at least try then they technically never get to know what’s right, and their demise becomes our fault.

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The luxury you speak of only comes with power. How will you get that power?

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