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They list the same traits. I know I am moved by personal shit, and any unnecessary violence. But have done alot of violence Im not moved by. Its not so simple. I dont give a fuck about 1000 people dying. I really dont care about anyone in my family dying. But kick a puppy and Im ready to kill you.

They list the same traits. I know I am moved by personal shit, and any unnecessary violence. But have done alot of violence Im not moved by. Its not so simple. I dont give a fuck about 1000 people dying. I really dont care about anyone in my family dying. But kick a puppy and Im ready to kill you.

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Psychopaths are capable of blending in and even being popular and successful. Sociopaths tend to be more chaotic and overtly self-destructive.

I'd say psychopaths are basically just socially and financially ambitious sociopaths. That's why many end up as CEOs and world leaders.

What you describe yourself as I wouldn't call either of those. DnD nerds would call you a chaotic neutral. I'd say that's where I land. I care if my wife and kids die, but I wouldn't be moved by anyone else really...not that I can imagine. I despise initiation of violence but I know what I'm capable of when it's necessary, and I don't even want to imagine what I'd do to someone who harmed my wife or kids.

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Psychopaths are capable of blending in and even being popular and successful. Sociopaths tend to be more chaotic and overtly self-destructive.

Just the opposite is true.

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The difference between a sociopath and a psychopath, the way I define the terms, is that a sociopath has mental stability, whereas a psychopath suffers from delusions and compulsions he cannot control.

They both lack empathy for other human beings. They both regard other humans as mere tools to use as they see fit for their own entertainment or advancement. They are both skilled liars and manipulators. You might say that a psychopath is an extreme sociopath.

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Sociopath knows it's wrong but does it anyways.

A psychopath does wrong but doesn't understand it's wrong.

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So what is someone who just lacks empathy? Without the craziness.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

an apathetic person

your passion is being staunched by something in your life

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not sure if staunched is really the word for what you mean.

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Depends how you define empathy. A lot of people will lie to manipulate your feelings, seeing through the lie and being unmoved by someone's manipulation strategy doesn't mean you lack empathy.

Empathy, to me, means you can sense people's feelings, where they're coming from because you understand their situation. You understand this person behaved in such and such way because of certain circumstances. You can be sociopathic and have Empathy.

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I think we have a lot of people who experience over-empathy, which is uncontrollable, unbias empathy that essentially leads to self-destruction. They are the type to be vegan and complain about speciesism and fight for Dog breed equality. Selective empathy is still genuine empathy. It's not like it's healthy to feel empathy for insects... And that's a subconscious bias.

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The difference is the tolerance for violence. Sociopaths are generally manipulative and shitty, but not violent. Psychopaths seem to derive some pleasure from violence, usually. There is some overlap, of course, but a true psychopath is worse than a sociopath because they have no moral or social boundaries.

A sociopath generally retains a sense of what is right and wrong more than the psychopath. Where an opportunity arises for a sociopath to make money at someone else's expense, they can recognize it is wrong and would disapprove of someone else doing it.

A psychopath generally regards societal norms as merely a boundary that can be violated when no one is looking.

The sociopath will hate getting caught, but will still experience the moral outrage when someone else does wrong. They feel the rules don't apply to them.

A psychopath will also hate getting caught, but can only feign outrage at the wrong doing of others because they have learned that is "how people are." Not only do they feel the rules don't apply to them, they see rule followers as weak.

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A sociopath generally retains a sense of what is right and wrong more than the psychopath.

A sociopath knows what society defines as right and wrong, and is able to follow those social rules when he makes the effort, but he doesn't feel these differences within himself.

A psychopath is so out of touch with reality, he has a hard time following society's rules, which of course mean nothing to him. His inner crazy dictates his actions.

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Some psychopaths areable to function quite well in society.

Stupid ones end up dead or in jail. Smart ones end up as CEOs and high level politicians.

The same goes for sociopaths. However, high level sociopaths... once you know how to deal with them... are relatively easy to manage. A smart psychopath is pretty nasty to deal with, because they resist even heavy leverage against them and will double down on dishonesty or threats until someone loses.

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They're both concepts that try to encapsulate reality. Square pegs for Square holes. Rectangular pegs for Rectangular holes. There is some overlap but one won't necessarily fit the other.

If you tortured animals as a child, that's highly predictive for psychopathy.

If you steal from people, selectively torture someone, that's sociopathy. You see it all the time with offended snowflakes. These are the people who will throw nails by your car hoping you wind up with a flat. The people who will smile to your face then drop that fake smile the second you're not around.

Sociopaths and psychopaths know how to put on a mask, people with empathy have more consistent facial expressions because they're not wearing a mask, their expressions are natural and guided by emotions.

Sociopaths are only concerned with their own status and power. Yes a lot of our leaders show these traits.

Bill Gates is a classic sociopath, if you want a film study in sociopathy and narcissism watch him talk.

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I think the difference is context, I'm a little similar. People are bastards and they prove it every day. Some are dishonorable and some are despicable and they all deserve some karmic justice. Puppies are innocent and the innocent deserve to be protected.

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Psychopaths are incapable of feeling empathy, they can only feign it, if they are intelligent enough. I mean they physically can not even relate to the experience, just like someone without an internal monologue can't relate to someone with one. It can be biologically inherited, and it can also be induced- so I guess a true psychopath is the inherited one, because it's inherent to them/ their bloodline. Sociopath covers social disorders like Schizoid or Borderline Personality Disorder. Childhood trauma and parental abuse/ neglect often causes severe Social disorders, but if the child is cared for before they reach adulthood (and they are European), they have the capacity to restore those social/ emotional functions.

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I thought the difference was that the sociopath is emotionally disconnected from other people, and the psychopath has unhealthy emotional connections to other people.

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OP is an edgelord faggot