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Hard times are coming, and emotional maturity will keep you strong. I've listened to men complain about things that don't matter, or make issues for themselves that can be solved with a simple shift in perspective.

For myself, I study Stoicism. I find it helps me weave through life's more unimportant emotional demands, and focus my emotional energy on where it will benefit most. Ex: A man complains of his wife complaining. Pretty common. I look at my wife's complaining as information I can use to gauge her mental health, the issues she's dealing with, etc. I don't solve my wife's problems, I just listen. I do not add her burden to my own. I simply offer advice when appropriate and I don't bring the subject up again. I do all this with respect and kindness.

I would challenge you to ask yourself how emotionally mature you are. Be honest with the answer. Think heavy on it. Dig around in areas that are uncomfortable for you. And then accept your answer.... if you're good, you're good. If you need to work on things, you know what to do.

Hard times are coming, and emotional maturity will keep you strong. I've listened to men complain about things that don't matter, or make issues for themselves that can be solved with a simple shift in perspective. For myself, I study Stoicism. I find it helps me weave through life's more unimportant emotional demands, and focus my emotional energy on where it will benefit most. Ex: A man complains of his wife complaining. Pretty common. I look at my wife's complaining as information I can use to gauge her mental health, the issues she's dealing with, etc. I don't solve my wife's problems, I just listen. I do not add her burden to my own. I simply offer advice when appropriate and I don't bring the subject up again. I do all this with respect and kindness. I would challenge you to ask yourself how emotionally mature you are. Be honest with the answer. Think heavy on it. Dig around in areas that are uncomfortable for you. And then accept your answer.... if you're good, you're good. If you need to work on things, you know what to do.

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[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

You must be mistaking a nagging/complaining wife with one that just wants to talk about her day. There is a big difference.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I've made no mistakes. It's the matter of perspective that dictates if she's 'nagging' or 'talking'. It's also how a man reacts to the discourse that can affect the tone. When my wife nags, I can get angry, start an argument, and there goes that energy, or, I listen reasonably and let it run it's course, preferably if while I'm engaged in other activities. (I've had to tell her, in our past, that she can talk, but she'll have to follow me around while I get shit done)

Also, marital interaction wasn't the point of my post, simply an example.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

You still don't get it. Anyone who puts their ability to be happy in the hands of their partner will not have a good relationship no matter how the partner chooses to perceive it. You could do everything they ask with a shit eating grin and they will find something else to complain about. Unhappy/naggy/complaining women cannot be satisfied. It's a mental disorder that you clearly have no experience with. They say women mature faster than men, but that is because they stop maturing at 16 where men continue to mature and learn into their 20s. Most women are insufferable teenagers who are stuck in their high-school mentality.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Everything you're describing is a woman who is placated by her 'man'. Men don't cater to a woman's every whim. They lead. Lead right, and a woman has nothing to complain about. It actually sounds like you have no experience in leading. I'm not jabbing, but with our short discourse, you are a man that is describing a problem that men who know how to lead, don't have. If these are your experiences with women, I'd ask myself some serious questions.