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Newton’s 3rd Law states that object B exerts an equal and opposite force on object A when A exerts a force on B.

So it doesn’t matter how fast a “plane” is going when it hits a skyscraper. The result is still a completely obliterated plane outside the building. It is literally the same effect as if you put a Boeing 767 on a giant golf tee and smacked it with a steel and concrete skyscraper going hundreds of mph.

Planes crumple and become disfigured even when in flight.

Skyscrapers like the twin towers, on the other hand, are specifically designed to withstand such trauma. Look at construction pictures and see the concrete-filled trusses and steel columns involved in their construction.

This would be akin to saying that a beer can will go into a tree trunk if you shoot the can fast enough.

I agree that the “how” of 9/11 isn’t nearly as important as the “who” and “why.” But it also gets tiresome seeing assertions that “no planes” is some sort of psy-op when it’s clearly the best explanation for the video we were shown.

I could make the entire case here, or at least show a lot more evidence, but let’s just see what weak-ass opposition arises first.

Newton’s 3rd Law states that object B exerts an equal and opposite force on object A when A exerts a force on B. So it doesn’t matter how fast a “plane” is going when it hits a skyscraper. The result is still a completely obliterated plane outside the building. It is literally the same effect as if you put a Boeing 767 on a giant golf tee and smacked it with a steel and concrete skyscraper going hundreds of mph. Planes crumple and become disfigured even when [hitting birds](https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/l/w/5/r/n/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1420x800.1lw61o.png/1506368053584.jpg) in flight. Skyscrapers like the twin towers, on the other hand, are specifically designed to withstand such trauma. Look at construction pictures and see the concrete-filled trusses and steel columns involved in their construction. This would be akin to saying that a beer can will go into a tree trunk if you shoot the can fast enough. I agree that the “how” of 9/11 isn’t nearly as important as the “who” and “why.” But it also gets tiresome seeing assertions that “no planes” is some sort of psy-op when it’s clearly the best explanation for the video we were shown. I could make the entire case here, or at least show a lot more evidence, but let’s just see what weak-ass opposition arises first.

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[–] • 0 pt

the plan becomes a shrapnel bomb, how much does a plane weigh? now how much torque would be applied to the leaver arm of said building when hit at a high point? albeit the tower should go toppling over and not collapse into itself but your premise is still wrong

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

If you calculated the torque, which we could, the question would then be, how much torque does it take to knock over the building?

But that doesn’t change the fact that the plane would not go inside the building. It would crumple and be basically vaporized external to the building. Perhaps some pieces of “shrapnel” could be hurled from the plane and end up inside the building from crashing through the (small) windows. But the plane itself would not effortlessly melt into the building.

When you mention torque you’re just talking about the force required to knock the building over. That makes no difference to the fact that a plane can’t enter inside a skyscraper no matter how fast it’s traveling.

However, you raise a good point that if anyone had been told the buildings fell, without seeing the footage, they would never have envisioned the tower crumbling straight down. Obviously it was engineered and not natural.

[–] • 1 pt

how much does a plane weigh?

400,000 to 800,000 pounds.