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It may be possible that one dimension of the craziness going on now is foreign destabilization.

Examples: One rogue employee makes a donation to Bernie? Boycott and wreck the company.

Employers require vaccination? Quit and wreck the company.

If you are fired it'll help the destabilization sure, but not every company will fire its employees for non compliance. Additionally, the more who stay and stand their ground, the more will be inspired to do so also.

So, if you are in a position to resist, then resist. There's a chance that we all will weather the storm, and still have something left standing if we do.

It may be possible that one dimension of the craziness going on now is foreign destabilization. Examples: One rogue employee makes a donation to Bernie? Boycott and wreck the company. Employers require vaccination? Quit and wreck the company. If you are fired it'll help the destabilization sure, but not every company will fire its employees for non compliance. Additionally, the more who stay and stand their ground, the more will be inspired to do so also. So, if you are in a position to resist, then resist. There's a chance that we all will weather the storm, and still have something left standing if we do.

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How do file the exemption? Is it an actual form or just write a letter?

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For my company it was a form. Here were the invasive questions (they are a Catholic charity, so I've always avoided saying one single word about my religion because I'm sure it strays quite far from whatever it is Catholics or pretend Catholics believe):

Please explain the religious belief, observation, or practice that prevents you from getting the COVID-19/Influenza vaccine.

Please describe the specific conflict between your religious belief, observance or practice and the COVID-19/Influenza vaccine. In your response, please identify the specific reasons the vaccine requirement causes conflict.

Please provide any information that will help us determine that your belief is sincerely held. For example, does this belief affect any other aspect of your life? Please provide any details you feel are relevant.

Please identify any job accommodation(s) that you believe would resolve the conflict between your religious belief, observance or practice and the vaccine requirement. Be as specific as possible.

That last one felt weirdly worded to be a trick question to me. Do they want to know what will make me take a forced poison into my body? Or do they want to know what I will be willing to do to prevent my "dirty unvaxxed, unclean" self away from people? It was all really disheartening. I know if word gets out that I even filed an exemption I will be harassed by colleagues. I just recently moved to a new, amazing team and to get fired or alienate them now will really suck.

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Interesting.

I was looking up employment attorneys earlier today. If it comes down to I think I will let them help me fill the form or write a letter. I'm sure that is a request they are seeing more and more of.

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Yeah. I have a colleague (the only one I know of) who also wanted to file an exemption, so we split the cost of the lawyer and spoke to him at the same time. We also had a wider variety of questions that way - we'd both thought of different "gottchas." Both of us are mostly worried about discrimination and even though the lawyer tried to reassure us a bit, he said the fact that we were worried enough to ask him, tells him that there is a chance of it. I'm glad we spent the money, it did make me feel better.

When you file the exemption just make sure not to mention "science." Nothing about it being experimental, nothing about side effects, or lack of efficacy. Make sure you only mention religious reasons that they can't argue with because those are your beliefs, logical to them or not.

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That would probably depend on the company. My wife is in healthcare and they provide forms for both religious and medical exemptions. They also allow exemptions for pregnant employees but that would obviously only last until no longer pregnant.