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These idiots who keep promoting "gold", "silver", "crypto-currencies", are Egyptian pyramidists and ponzers. In a catastrophic situation, what they promote and themselves will be shown as the fraud they are.

Wood can be used to make fire and other things, essential in a survival situation.

These idiots who keep promoting "gold", "silver", "crypto-currencies", are Egyptian pyramidists and ponzers. In a catastrophic situation, what they promote and themselves will be shown as the fraud they are. Wood can be used to make fire and other things, essential in a survival situation.

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[–] • 3 pts

I'd argue tools, not power tools mind you, but hand tools would be at least on par with wood.

In you assume an actual catastrophe you have to assume infrastructure collapse as well and fuel is infrastructure. The best chainsaw on the market, consumer or otherwise, needs fuel.

If you assume solar/hydro are still operational, then some battery operated things might keep on for a while, depending on the length of the catastrophe, but eventually they polarize and go.

[–] • 1 pt

Hand tools and the skills to use and maintain them at a reasonable level would be very valuable.

I have a reasonable selection of wood working hand tools. Planes, chisels, saw etc. Also some basic blacksmithing tools. The good thing about blacksmithing is that you can make more tools (not very good ones, but better than nothing).

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

Food and water is better.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Sure, but you need wood to make fire for food and filter and purify water, but with gold or digital cryptocurrencies you do nothing.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I do somewhat agree with your principle though. If shtf you wont get a can of beans from me for an ounce of gold.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

wood is everywhere and free.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Not so much if you live in the city, but you can store cut wood as well.

[–] • 3 pts

Invest in a chainsaw. Tree trunks and logs can become planks and boards with a chainsaw. Plus if you live in earthquake territory it’s going to take a chainsaw to get to your stuff that is under the rubble that was once your house.

[–] • 2 pts

And don't fuck around with homeowner grade. It's not that much more expensive to get a professional tier saw that will run far better and is rebuildable.

[–] • 1 pt

Better have gas stored in that case.

You don't need a motorized saw to fell trees. Does make turning them into lumber much easier, but there are ways to make planks without gas or electricity.

[–] • 1 pt

A good inventory of saws and axes is a solid investment too.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

Can you recommend one? (I prefer electric but I don’t know if there are professional grade versions.) I have an 8 amp craftsman but it does not have good reviews and requires constant adjustments to keep the chain on the rails.

[–] • 2 pts

I have a Stihl 362. It's the small end of the professional grade saws.

[–] • 2 pts

Brass and lead will also be quite valuable. Steel can be scavenged easily enough.