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All the problems, the expensive batteries, the need for an upgraded grid, the problem of how to generate all the extra power are all part of the plan. They want to hold electric cars out as the solution while they pass all these laws to massively restrict regular cars. Then once all the laws are passed and cars have become so expensive that no one can afford them they will roll out their plans to have us live in small concentrated urban areas, forbidden to travel between because virus. It's all part of a long term plan to make us peasants again.

All the problems, the expensive batteries, the need for an upgraded grid, the problem of how to generate all the extra power are all part of the plan. They want to hold electric cars out as the solution while they pass all these laws to massively restrict regular cars. Then once all the laws are passed and cars have become so expensive that no one can afford them they will roll out their plans to have us live in small concentrated urban areas, forbidden to travel between because virus. It's all part of a long term plan to make us peasants again.

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Through regulation they'll make both so expensive to own that the average person will use their self-driving electric cars as a service. In the future you will own nothing and you will be happy.

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That's weird because currently electric cars cost less to operate per mile than gasoline cars, even when you count having to replace the battery every 200,000 miles or so.

A $35,000 electric car in expensive California uses about $4,250 worth of electricity to drive 100,000 miles. A gas car would require over $13,000 in gas to drive the same distance. The gas car also needs oil changes and regular service that the electric car doesn't need. If the oil and service costs $150 every 5,000 miles it's another $3,000 for the gas car. That puts you at $12,000 more to operate the gas car for 100,000 miles.

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>$4250 worth of electricity

When it's only a handful of people using the electricity to charge cars. They're proposing that they'll add tens of millions of electric cars. At the same time they are closing power plants and regulating coal to the point it'll be unusable. So a massive demand in electricity at the same time we have a dropoff in production will spike the price. They know this. They planned this.

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They are also killing nuclear generating plants.

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It will have to quadruple just to cost the same as gas.

Efficient solar panels would ready fuck up their plan.

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They know this. They planned this.

You give them too much credit.

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And then you have more fun times like when texans got gaped by their electricity providers.

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Ok wise guy, deducts the state and federal subsidies on those electric cars and add in the disposal fees for those toxic waste batteries and get back to me.

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It’s almost free! Plus, recharging a car from the power generated from fields of lollipops and jellybeans feels really good.

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I'm not counting the incentives. In California the incentives add another $11,000 to the deal. The incentives often make the electric car cheaper than the gas car right off the lot. There is no fee to dispose of the battery. They are recycled the same as when you get a new 12V battery for your regular car.

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Without taxes the cost of gas would be half of what it is now, depending on the state. They'll find a way to tax electric cars to make them prohibitively expensive for the average person once they kill off cars that have an internal combustion engine.

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Then E-lon flips the double-secret kill switch and all the e-cars go rogue and run off of a cliff.

Bang!

Population control 2.0 blamed on a glitch.

E-lon told me as much over an eight ball of cocaine.

....or not.

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If you think only electric cars phone home, I've got news for you. That shit started with GM gas cars in the '90s.

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16c per kilowatt hour. The 35k car battery is what 45kwh? So 7.20 to fill'er up Johnny. That charge is good for what 60 miles? So enough to get to work and back and maybe stop at the store, every day. 25 days of driving per month, you're tossing a 180 in e-fuel per month, or ~$2000 a year. In two years you'll use up the $4,250 without driving 100k miles. I'm a moron with absolutely average intelligence and I ain't buying it chief.

You get a hybrid, then you use fuel for everythang. No need to suck off the grid directly. With a $35k hybrid you're paying $4.50/gal for gas, you're getting 450 miles out of every tank, which costs you ~$45. That's $190/mo in gas, with the convenience of not having to charge your thingymajigy. I'll pay that extra $10, no problem, won't even lose sleep over it. I like my vroom vroom.

If you start putting your foot down the battery car becomes much less efficient than the other car.

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Plug-ins are the best of both world. Get a battery that covers your commute, so you save a ton there plus there are no anxiety of running out of electricity since you have a fuel tank and you'll still get great mileage as a hybrid.

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16c per kilowatt hour. The 35k car battery is what 45kwh? So 7.20 to fill'er up Johnny. That charge is good for what 60 miles?

A 45 kWh battery is good for 180 miles if you're an average driver. If you're careful it's enough for 220 - 270 miles. That completely destroys your calculations.

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What’s really weird is how limited your ability to travel without a portable and reliable source of power is. I guess it’s worth it tho, because somebody who would pay $150 for a $30 job probably should be limited to the confines of a smart city.

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What’s really weird is how limited your ability to travel without a portable and reliable source of power is.

You know that if there's no power you can't fill up with gas from the gas station, right?

Even ignoring that. You can't make your own gasoline, but you can make your own electricity all day long every day.

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Have you tried not being poor yet?

Have you tried not being a jew?

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You act like not being poor can only done by people who you (ik going out on a limb here) think is weaker than you. Stop looking so helpless and confused.

In mother Russia electric car owns.......huh.