If you are a real person:
The "Motive" will never be solved. If you are hung up on that, you will go down a dark path. Often, it's OK to just accept that you won't know the motive. On a side note, it's why I don't believe in DNA tests, our ancestors have fucked and betrayed their spouces. Their motives, are none of my business. I am whom I am, and that's all I need to know. Like wise, the facts are the facts, the motives are irrelevant.
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"I wouldn't go that far. Scientism is bad because it misunderstands what science is and does, but does not mean science itself is the problem. Science is simply a tool people use"
This is an amateur and naive version of science. Science has been converged for over 100 years and hasn't followed science. Just look at the vaccines. Look at Polio, it will make you shudder the bullshit that has destroyed humanity from their "vaccine"
- I'm pretty sure the Ancient Greeks determined the Earth was spherical and there are ways people have tried to scientifically demonstrate that. I wouldn't say it's inconclusive.
Again you are ignorant (not an insult) Eratosthenes is a myth, you can't determine the circumference of the earth from two points, this is well established. His well experiment is a hoax and well admitted. His same experiment can both prove a round earth and a flat earth. Again well established in the "science" community.
- I also chuckled a bit at this use of globalists because if you mean it in the sense that anyone believing in a spherical Earth is a globalist, then I'm one and that's amusing.
Yes. Hence my High IQ rethoric in using it. You are a Globalist. You just don't know why you believe in it. The definition of water level is: the height reached by the water in a reservoir, river, storage tank, etc. It can't happen on a Globalist earth. It's physically impossible. Speaking of Science, if you believe in science you can't have water level of a Globalist Earth. It's physically impossible.
- Again I'm a moron Flat Earther now because I ask questions and yet you had no idea "SCIENCE" can't explain why planes fly. What else don't you know? Why haven't you asked the questions?
The reason why Flat Earthes are Flat Earther's is because they ask Questions. IF you are genuine, you just demonstrated why I became one. 4 years ago, I debated a "Flat Earther" and lost because I realized I didn't know shit about why I believed in a Globalist Earth. Once you ask the questions, you will realize "science" is fake and most definitely gay. It's not a meme, they are literally gay. Einstein fucked his cousin twice. Hence E=Mc2 c standing for this counsins that he fucked twice.
The "Motive" will never be solved.
Conspiracies happen for a reason. If you cannot even suggest a possible goal that lying about the shape of the planet and gravity serves, it seriously calls into question why you'd think people are working hard to do that. That kind grand scale conspiracy has to be for some reason. Again, it sounds like "They do it just to do it" without mentioning possible motives.
counter for Gravity
That's neat, but it doesn't back your claim that the mainstream scientific community thinks gravity is bunk. That says some people think Einstein's explanation needs work.
Science has been converged for over 100 years and hasn't followed science
What does "science hasn't followed science" mean?
Eratosthenes is a myth, you can't determine the circumference of the earth from two points, this is well established.
This explains how he did it. I'm sure people have replicated that. And it's established by whom that it doesn't work?
His well experiment is a hoax and well admitted.
By whom? So the man is a myth but also conducted a hoax that he or someone else admitted to?
Again well established in the "science" community.
Why does that matter? You're dismissive of science unless you're claiming that scientists actually agree with you. Can you explain how that isn't a contradiction? Despite what "I LOVE Science" people think, science doesn't have all the answers and never claimed to. Arrogant and ignorant people may, but actual scientists tend to have a more humble understanding of the nature and limits of science.
You are a Globalist. You just don't know why you believe in it.
I don't think conflating Globalist, an elitist ideology about control and greed, with Round Earther, believing the planet is spherical, makes for productive conversation. Especially since I can name the motives behind the actions of the former.
The definition of water level is: the height reached by the water in a reservoir, river, storage tank, etc. It can't happen on a Globalist earth. It's physically impossible. Speaking of Science, if you believe in science you can't have water level of a Globalist Earth. It's physically impossible.
You defined water level as water reaching a height. You think water reaching a height is impossible on a spherical Earth? I'm don't mean that with any snark. I'm truly unsure what you mean here.
Again I'm a moron Flat Earther now because I ask questions and yet you had no idea "SCIENCE" can't explain why planes fly. What else don't you know? Why haven't you asked the questions?
I'm not treating you like a moron. It's unfortunate that others have been cruel and dismissive, but I haven't, so I'm not sure what that is for. I haven't claimed to know everything, and there's a lot I don't know just like anyone else. Again, I'm really unsure what those remarks are for.
The reason why Flat Earthes are Flat Earther's is because they ask Questions.
But apparently not about why a round Earth theory is perpetuated. Apparently, asking who gets anything out of perpetuating falsehoods about the shape of the planet and/or gravity isn't important.
Once you ask the questions, you will realize "science" is fake and most definitely gay. It's not a meme, they are literally gay.
Do you have an actual source for Einstein having sex with a male cousin? I know he did with a female cousin, but I've never heard of sex with a male cousin. Also, why is that emblematic of science itself? He is a high profile scientist, but his personal faults aren't the same critiques of his work and certainly not a good critique of a system of knowledge.
Bro, Starjello (better known as Jello-Bro) Is the least antagonistic person here. Jello-Bro is prolly the only person who will engage with you in 100% good faith on a topic like flat earth.
I feel like I engaged myself professionally.
You
>Again I'm a moron Flat Earther now because I ask questions and yet you had no idea "SCIENCE" can't explain why planes fly. What else don't you know? Why haven't you asked the questions?
Jello-Bro
>I'm not treating you like a moron. It's unfortunate that others have been cruel and dismissive, but I haven't, so I'm not sure what that is for. I haven't claimed to know everything, and there's a lot I don't know just like anyone else. Again, I'm really unsure what those remarks are for.
That's what I was referencing. Jello-Bro was having a good faith dialectic with you, which you ought to be happy with because few other people will do so after they read "flat earth" or "science can't enplane why airplanes fly"
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