WelcomeUser Guide
ToSPrivacyCanary
DonateBugsLicense

©2025 Poal.co

1.0K

This is an often used "quote" on Poland, Hitler, Armenians, Genocide and WW2.

On August 22, 1939, in a conference between Hitler and all of the Reich's senior military leaders, Hitler stated quite explicitly that the coming war against Poland was to be a "war of extermination" in which Hitler expressed his intention to "...to kill without pity or mercy all men, women and children of the Polish race or language".

And

"Thus for the time being I have sent to the East only my 'Death's Head Units' with the orders to kill without pity or mercy all men, women, and children of Polish race or language. Only in such a way will we win the vital space that we need. Who still talks nowadays about the Armenians?"

Seemed like quite a statement to just take as a fact with no substantiation or proof. So I did some digging.

https://www.ataa.org/armenian-issue-revisited/the-u-s-congress-and-adolf-hitler-on-the-armenians

The Hitler Quote: Its Source and Its Avowed Focus

Given the widespread utilization of this quotation by Armenian spokesmen and their supporters, perhaps we should not be too surprised at the fact that it has found its way into the lexicon of our lawmakers. Even the dean of Armenian-American historians, Professor Richard Hovannisian of UCLA, stated in a 1983 address to the World Affairs Council of Pittsburgh, “Perhaps Adolf Hitler had good cause in 1939 to declare, according to the Nuremberg trial transcripts, “Who, after all, speaks today of the extermination of the Armenians?” s(1) “Is it any wonder, then, that the following list of elected U.S. officials repeat the same charge?

Senator Rude Boschwitz, R-Minn.; Senator Carl Levin, D-Mich.; Senator Howard Metzenbaum, D-Ohio.; Congressman Les Aspin, D-Wis.; Congressman Howard Berman, D-Calif.; Congressman Thomas Bliley, R-Va.; Congressman Edward Boland, D-Mass.; Congresswoman Barbara Boxer, D-Calif.; Congressman Edward Feighan, D-Ohio.; Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro, D-N.Y.; Congressman Hamilton Fish, R-N.Y.; Congressman William Ford, D-Mich.; Congressman Sam Gejdenson, D-Conn.; Congressman William Green, R-N.Y.; Congressman Richard Lehman, D-Calif.; Congressman Bruce Morrison, D-Conn.; Congressman Nicholas Mavroules, D-Mass.; Congressman Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.; Congressman James Shannon, D-Mass.; and Congressman Henry Waxman, D-Calif.

It is noteworthy that sixteen of the above-listed officials (with the exception of Boxer, Courter, Dymally, Feighan, Ford, and Schumer) all clearly state that That Hitler made his statement in support of this planned extermination of European Jewry. Equally noteworthy is the fact that the three Senators, Boschwitz, Levin, and Metzenbaum, and four of the members of the House, Berman, Gejdenson, Green, and Waxman, who made this linkage are themselves Jews.

The problem with this linkage is that there is no proof that Adolf Hitler ever made such a statement. Everything written to date has attributed the purported Hitler quote, not to primary sources, but to an article that appeared in the Times of London on Saturday, November 24, 1945. Said article, entitled “Nazi Germany’s Road To War,” (2) cites the quote and bases its attribution to Hitler on an address b, him to his commanders-in-chief six year earlier, on August 22, 1939, a few days prior to his invasion of Poland. According to the unnamed author of the Times article, the speech had been introduced as evidence during the November 23, 1945, session of the Nuremberg Tribunal. Hitler is quoted as having stated. “Thus for the time being I have sent to the East only my Death’s Head units, with the order to kill without pity or mercy all men, women, and children of the Polish race or language. Who still talks nowadays of the extermination of the Armenians?”(3) However , this version of the address was never accepted as evidence in this or any other session of the Nuremberg Tribunal.

This is an often used "quote" on Poland, Hitler, Armenians, Genocide and WW2. >On August 22, 1939, in a conference between Hitler and all of the Reich's senior military leaders, Hitler stated quite explicitly that the coming war against Poland was to be a "war of extermination" in which Hitler expressed his intention to "...to kill without pity or mercy all men, women and children of the Polish race or language". And >**"Thus for the time being I have sent to the East only my 'Death's Head Units' with the orders to kill without pity or mercy all men, women, and children of Polish race or language. Only in such a way will we win the vital space that we need. Who still talks nowadays about the Armenians?"** Seemed like quite a statement to just take as a fact with no substantiation or proof. So I did some digging. [And color me shocked, it's a (((totally fabricated))) bunch of bullshit.](#triggered) https://www.ataa.org/armenian-issue-revisited/the-u-s-congress-and-adolf-hitler-on-the-armenians #The Hitler Quote: Its Source and Its Avowed Focus >Given the widespread utilization of this quotation by Armenian spokesmen and their supporters, perhaps we should not be too surprised at the fact that it has found its way into the lexicon of our lawmakers. Even the dean of Armenian-American historians, Professor Richard Hovannisian of UCLA, stated in a 1983 address to the World Affairs Council of Pittsburgh, “Perhaps Adolf Hitler had good cause in 1939 to declare, according to the Nuremberg trial transcripts, “Who, after all, speaks today of the extermination of the Armenians?” s(1) “Is it any wonder, then, that the following list of elected U.S. officials repeat the same charge? >Senator Rude Boschwitz, R-Minn.; Senator Carl Levin, D-Mich.; Senator Howard Metzenbaum, D-Ohio.; Congressman Les Aspin, D-Wis.; Congressman Howard Berman, D-Calif.; Congressman Thomas Bliley, R-Va.; Congressman Edward Boland, D-Mass.; Congresswoman Barbara Boxer, D-Calif.; Congressman Edward Feighan, D-Ohio.; Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro, D-N.Y.; Congressman Hamilton Fish, R-N.Y.; Congressman William Ford, D-Mich.; Congressman Sam Gejdenson, D-Conn.; Congressman William Green, R-N.Y.; Congressman Richard Lehman, D-Calif.; Congressman Bruce Morrison, D-Conn.; Congressman Nicholas Mavroules, D-Mass.; Congressman Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.; Congressman James Shannon, D-Mass.; and Congressman Henry Waxman, D-Calif. >It is noteworthy that sixteen of the above-listed officials (with the exception of Boxer, Courter, Dymally, Feighan, Ford, and Schumer) all clearly state that That Hitler made his statement in support of this planned extermination of European Jewry. Equally noteworthy is the fact that the three Senators, Boschwitz, Levin, and Metzenbaum, and four of the members of the House, Berman, Gejdenson, Green, and Waxman, who made this linkage are themselves Jews. >**The problem with this linkage is that there is no proof that Adolf Hitler ever made such a statement. Everything written to date has attributed the purported Hitler quote, not to primary sources, but to an article that appeared in the Times of London on Saturday, November 24, 1945.** Said article, entitled “Nazi Germany’s Road To War,” (2) cites the quote and bases its attribution to Hitler on an address b, him to his commanders-in-chief six year earlier, on August 22, 1939, a few days prior to his invasion of Poland. According to the unnamed author of the Times article, the speech had been introduced as evidence during the November 23, 1945, session of the Nuremberg Tribunal. Hitler is quoted as having stated. “Thus for the time being I have sent to the East only my Death’s Head units, with the order to kill without pity or mercy all men, women, and children of the Polish race or language. Who still talks nowadays of the extermination of the Armenians?”(3) However , this version of the address was never accepted as evidence in this or any other session of the Nuremberg Tribunal.

(post is archived)

[–] 1 pt
[–] 4 pts

Went to go check those non-pdf sources, google translate since I don't speak the language. But it looks like normal military stuff.

'We need to attack Poland because relations have been deteriorating (and provocations from them). We expect that Poland will backstab us if war breaks out in the West so we're hitting them first as they're trying to start a war anyways. We think that other countries won't jump in to help Polard immediately. Here are are good strategic positions if things kick off beyond Poland, as well as why we should win long term.'

Notably there's talk about how it's super important to conquer Poland quickly, because shit might hit the fan with other countries. That seems pretty at odds with "also BTW we're going to exterminate every Polak down to the last."

[–] 0 pt

Yeah, all 3 documents agree that: "Ziel: Vernichtung Polens - Beseitigung seiner lebendigen Kraft. Es handelt sich nicht um Erreichen einer bestimmten Linie oder einer neuen Grenze, sondern um Vernichtung des Feindes, die auf immer neuen Wegen angestrebt werden muß (...) Es handelt sich nicht darum, das Recht auf unserer Seite zu haben, sondern ausschließlich um den Sieg (...) Durchführung: Hart und rücksichtslos. Gegen alle Erwägungen des Mitleids hart machen!" (Objective: to destroy Poland - to eliminate its living force. It is not a matter of reaching a certain line or a new border, but of annihilating the enemy, which must be striven for in ever new ways (...) It is not a question of having the right on our side, but exclusively about the victory (...) Execution: Hard and ruthless. Make tough against all considerations of compassion! ).

Poland was offered a solution by Germany, however it refused, counting on Englands and Frances help - we all know how this ended. One should also remember what was meant with "soldier", was anybody who would oppose Germans, not only the army - especially on the lands that were under German occupation during the Partition of Poland. If you want more info on that subject, read Mein Kamp - the reasons for the extermination of Polish people are explicitly stated there.

[–] 0 pt

In the context of 1939 I hardly blame him. George Bush said more menacing things in speeches.

[–] 0 pt

So, do you agree with OP or disagree with OP?

[–] 0 pt

Did the poles get exterminated?

[–] 1 pt

Luckily not, although Poland suffered the greatest biological losses (for every 1,000 inhabitants, it lost 220 people), so in total around 2 770 000 ethnic Poles (not Polish Jews) lost their lives during WWII, as a result of warfare, represions, imprisonment, placement in concentration camps, displacement from their places of residence, and finally as a resul from changes in Poland's borders.

[–] 0 pt

Partly agree - documents were quite easy to find, even if you do not speak German. Also, it explicitly states on the pdf document: Nürnberg Beweisstück USA 30 ( Nürnberg trial, evidence no 30). However, as we know that USA was already infested, one cannot deny the involment of the kikery. Living in Poland though, I also cannot deny the devastation that war has caused in Poland, both in population and infrastructure, as well as their intentions to exterminate all of the racially unworthy Poles (see Generalplan Ost, Lebensraumpolitik).