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My mother is almost hysterical right now. I'm so fucking angry, and sad, and just.... I don't even know. This shit is unbelievable. They were both normal, happy, HEALTHY, 40-something year old's with no medical histories. They stared feeling ill right after, then it turned into some kind of nasty virus, then a chest infection, and now they are both really, really ill. And my cousin... I am fucking speechless. He is the only one of their kids to still be living at home (for which I am grateful) but he is now ill too, from being around them. He's not even 21 FFS. Just... FUCK.

Edit: Just want to say thank you to each and every one of you who took the time to comment. You guys are like family to me. Thanks.

My mother is almost hysterical right now. I'm so fucking angry, and sad, and just.... I don't even know. This shit is unbelievable. They were both normal, happy, HEALTHY, 40-something year old's with no medical histories. They stared feeling ill right after, then it turned into some kind of nasty virus, then a chest infection, and now they are both really, really ill. And my cousin... I am fucking speechless. He is the only one of their kids to still be living at home (for which I am grateful) but he is now ill too, from being around them. He's not even 21 FFS. Just... FUCK. Edit: Just want to say thank you to each and every one of you who took the time to comment. You guys are like family to me. Thanks.

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[–] 15 pts

Unfortunately you can't control and go against people's will. You can only talk to them.

Some healthy friends and relatives decided to get vaxxed, and a few days later, some of them got really sick (but hopefully no one died).

They are now painfully recovering.

Some were even pissed that I refused to get the jab. Guess they now know why.

[–] 8 pts

Intelligence is learning from your mistakes. Wisdom is learning from others' mistakes.

[–] 5 pts

Intelligence is not making these kind of obvious mistakes.

[–] 4 pts

Common sense is not trusting big pharma or the government.

Little intelligence required.

[–] 0 pt

Might be obvious to us. Not so obvious to normies that are being constantly bombarded by propaganda.

[–] 8 pts

You're right I know but fuck it's hard to just watch while your family makes stupid decisions.

[–] 6 pts

> it's hard to just watch while your family makes stupid decisions.

Yeah, I know a thing or two about that, my dad drowned himself in alcohol and then he offed himself

Talking about stupid decision

[–] 4 pts

Sorry to hear that. I personally know alcohol is easy to get into and hard to get out of.

[–] 0 pt

sorry to hear that. no child should have to go through that. but events like that seem to be a "fork", you either travel a similar path and let it control you or steer far from it and go in the opposite direction because you know how it'll end.

wish you all the best.

[–] 0 pt

Sorry to hear that, my Dad did the same think when I was 13. Probablywhy I am so cold to this world.

[–] 2 pts

it's hard to just watch while your family makes stupid decisions.

Story of my life.

[–] 2 pts

What scares the hell out of me is catching this shit from someone I know. If they get the jab and don't tell you, there's nothing you can do about that except to also possibly be infected.

[–] 1 pt

This is what scares me too. I literally have a stash of pine needle tea and NAC ready to go if I even get a hint that someone in my immediate family has been near the vaxxed.

[–] 7 pts

Get the stories you can from them. Record it. Keep the memories of who they were sacred.

[–] 3 pts

Vitamin D. Zinc. Ivermectin. Maybe hydroxychloroquine.

But definitely those first two regardless of how you feel about either drug. There is 0 doubt that zinc and vitamin D are your two most important immune nutrients and whatever bioweapon they were injected with can only be fought off by their own immune system.

[–] 1 pt

That works against the virus NOT against the vaccine. It works because it slows down how fast the virus can be replicated in your body allowing your body to fight it off. The vaccine instantly infects all of your cells causing them to start dumping tons and tons of spike proteins into your system. By the time you react it is too late. Your body is already destroyed. None of those treatments can filter the spike proteins from your body. They will collect in your organs and do their damage.

[–] 0 pt

The spike proteins are essentially the same as many viral byproducts which the immune system does help clean up. It's not a full cure because the vaccine itself isn't a virus, but it will help reduce the damage.

[–] 0 pt

What you are not understanding is that an anti viral slows down a virus. This is not a virus. An anti viral can not slow down this simply because some viruses have spike proteins. That is not how any of this works.

[–] 0 pt

Wait are you discussing what to take after the jab or when infected with covid?

[–] 0 pt

Both. Pretty much exactly what you should do whenever you get sick.

[–] 0 pt

Im not sure if Vit D would be good or not for the jab. It seems to reduce inflamation but there is an association with high vit. D and autoimmune disease. Would you increase your chances by taking high D?

Would zinc help at all? It might curb the replication of the virus. Would it reduce the synthesis of spike protein from an mRNA jab as well?

I think you would want to take some aspirin to break up blood clots. If there are some antivirals that directly bind to the spike protein, you might want to take them. Ivermectin? Pepsid? You might want to take some drugs that inhibit RNA synthesis. Maybe HCQ or doxycycline? You would want to take a steroid to reduce inflamatory response. Im just making some educated guesses but Im not a medical professional.

But for the jab, you would want a drug/drugs that would 1)decrease the production of the spike protein 2) reduce the inflamatory action of the immune system 3) prevent clots 4) block celluar damage of the spike protein 5)prevent anaphylaxis

[–] 0 pt

Vitamin D. Zinc. Ivermectin. Maybe hydroxychloroquine. Vitamin D. (been taking well before Wuhan Virus) Zinc. (taking this well before too) Ivermectin. (don't have but taking Cinchona bark capsules) Maybe hydroxychloroquine. (upped my antioxidant intake and too much to list)

[–] 1 pt

"Maybe" HCQ???

"Maybe" as a prophylactic. Definitely if you have covid. Last I saw, quinine could be ordered from Amazon.

[–] 0 pt

High dose vitamin C will immediately reduce viral load in the blood stream and should be included in everyones protocol when they start to feel sick. High dose vitamin c is not a prophylactic.

[–] 1 pt

They did not get sick from a virus.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

I've heard that Ivermectin can stop the spike protein from binding to the cells. Worth a try.

[–] 1 pt

Correct, you get sick from the "byproduct" of a virus. Does not however change the fact that when you attack the ability of viruses to replicate, you will reduce the amount of viral "byproducts", thus reducing symptoms.

[–] 3 pts

holyfuckingshit which one? Which vax?

[–] 2 pts

AstraZeneca

[–] 0 pt
[–] 1 pt

I don't think they even took it for employers... my uncle works from home (he's a PC tech) and my aunt stays at home because my cousin (the one that lives with them) is severely autistic. There was no reason for them to take it other than they thought it was a good idea. I have known they were ill for a month or so but we all thought it was a nasty cold or something. Turns out nope it started just after the jab.

[–] 3 pts
[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Just always know that it's the jew. The pure evil is hard to put in perspective.

[–] [deleted] 1 pt (edited )

I've heard that Ivermectin can stop the spike protein from binding, you may want to look into that.

They have Ivermectin paste for horses on Amazon.

which ancient warrior/ruler/king would not kill his enemy outright, but maim them so that the wounded would have to be tended to?

when i hear stories of relatives gravely ill, dead, and otherwise suffering in a way that renders them useless all i can think of is that great battle tactic.

[–] 1 pt

A similar situation is going on for many people, unfortunately. I hope they, by some miracle, make it through ok.

[–] 1 pt

Thanks friend, I'm praying but trying to be realistic.

[–] 1 pt

Four of my family members took the second jab and they're feeling great. The oldest one is in her 70s. Which vaccine did they take?

[–] 1 pt

I agree with you, the Pfizer is probably slightly less lethal than the moderna, and the AZ is probably killing at least 2x as many people.

My dad got both moderna jabs. I strongly discouraged him. In his 80s and he’s still alive so far. He said he felt fine, no problems. But a few weeks later he complained that he was getting more winded than usual and also he started losing bladder control. I didn’t immediately link this with the vax because he’s old. But I eventually concluded that the breathlessness was probably mild myocarditis and the incontinence was a symptom of transverse myalitis, both common effects of the vax. These symptoms went away after a couple months. But other frail people could have heart attacks which are never directly linked to the vaccine.

[–] 1 pt

My guess is the mRNA ones are the most dangerous, but I will avoid them all.

[–] 0 pt

>Which vaccine did they take?

Yeah this, it's important. At least if people can know which vax did this, they won't have died for nothing at all

[–] 1 pt

I wish I knew more details but my mother is very upset right now, tomorrow I might be able to get more out of her (its after 9pm here now). I believe it was the AstraZeneca jab. I will do my best to get more details.

[–] 1 pt (edited )

Yeah, AstraZeneca should be avoided. You dodged a bullet here. I've heard from people who got AZ they were super ill for several days, and even two weeks in some extreme cases. Some people even ended up in a hospital, or dead due to blood cloths. Everyone in my family opted for Pfizer and only my grandma experienced some mild muscle pain initially. Others had no issues whatsoever. Don't take AZ that shit is acomplete flop and it should've been banned a long time ago. A lot of people are too scared to take the second AZ jab, and I don't blame them. If anyone wants to get vaccinated go for Pfizer of Moderna. If they're not available then J&J is your another alternative. Some friends of mine got J&J and they're feeling fine.

[–] 1 pt

Sorry to hear.. Quite a few people I know got it and so far so good, but still.. My parents and my fam won't.

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