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He got the Moderna jab. This is someone who had taken the lock down very seriously and I had basically not seen him for a year. His wife has some medical issues that put her at risk so they had lived the life of hermits for the duration. When he was 'fully vaccinated' he started doing things again.

He also has an old knee injury from having twisted it bad about 25 years ago. Typically his knee does not cause him much trouble at all... It is in the category of "I can tell when a storm is coming because my knee aches."

About a week an a half after the second shot he woke up in the morning with his knee swelled up to the size of a basketball. Can't walk. Zero cause or explanation. He has been in a knee brace and hobbling around on crutches for 2 weeks now.

...the really scary thing is his brain refuses to entertain the possibility that the shot and his mysterious knee problem might be related. Last time I saw him he was starting to question me about when am I going to get the shot and "You're not turning into one of those stupid anti-vaxesrs are you?" He said this while standing on crutches for a totally unexplained medical issue that appeared right after the shot. Typically on the subject of the vax I feel that everyone has the right to make their own medical decisions so I don't confront people, but when he started in on me I felt unrestrained. I laid into him a bit and dropped some vax red pills and he was just getting defensive and was regurgitating the propaganda. "The new Indian 'D' variant is more deadly and is spreading!..." When I said "So you don't find it suspicious at all that you have this strange unexplained inflammation problem right after the vax when we KNOW that the spike protein causes inflammation?!?!" This comment hit him like a ton of bricks and he got quiet. It is really clear that he had just never considered the connection.

The lesson for me: We cannot stand by silently and watch our friends and families kill themselves. Non-confrontation and letting people 'make their own choice' is the cowards way out. I am now getting in-your-face confrontational with people. I know I will loose friends but it will be worth it if I am able to save just a few.

He got the Moderna jab. This is someone who had taken the lock down very seriously and I had basically not seen him for a year. His wife has some medical issues that put her at risk so they had lived the life of hermits for the duration. When he was 'fully vaccinated' he started doing things again. He also has an old knee injury from having twisted it bad about 25 years ago. Typically his knee does not cause him much trouble at all... It is in the category of "I can tell when a storm is coming because my knee aches." About a week an a half after the second shot he woke up in the morning with his knee swelled up to the size of a basketball. Can't walk. Zero cause or explanation. He has been in a knee brace and hobbling around on crutches for 2 weeks now. ...the really scary thing is his brain refuses to entertain the possibility that the shot and his mysterious knee problem might be related. Last time I saw him he was starting to question me about when am I going to get the shot and "You're not turning into one of those stupid anti-vaxesrs are you?" He said this while standing on crutches for a totally unexplained medical issue that appeared right after the shot. Typically on the subject of the vax I feel that everyone has the right to make their own medical decisions so I don't confront people, but when he started in on me I felt unrestrained. I laid into him a bit and dropped some vax red pills and he was just getting defensive and was regurgitating the propaganda. "The new Indian 'D' variant is more deadly and is spreading!..." When I said "So you don't find it suspicious at all that you have this strange unexplained inflammation problem right after the vax when we KNOW that the spike protein causes inflammation?!?!" This comment hit him like a ton of bricks and he got quiet. It is really clear that he had just never considered the connection. The lesson for me: We cannot stand by silently and watch our friends and families kill themselves. Non-confrontation and letting people 'make their own choice' is the cowards way out. I am now getting in-your-face confrontational with people. I know I will loose friends but it will be worth it if I am able to save just a few.

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My dad got it. God fucking dammit. It's too late. WTF can I do? I just hope he doesn't die.

[–] • 2 pts

Hope he's one of the one's without side-effects or in the control group. Try to convince him to not take any more of the shots.

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My dad got it. God fucking dammit. It's too late. WTF can I do? I just hope he doesn't die.

If he only got the first jab, try to convince him not to take the second.

If he has had either jab within the last 2 weeks, he should take 2 or 3 baby aspirin a day and stay hydrated. This prevents clotting.

2 or 3 pepcid a day may help mitigate some of the side effects of the vaccine if he has any. More serious side effects could be lessened by one or two doses of ivermectin.

If its past the 2 week mark, he’s probably not going to have serious ill effects. Some people experience breathlessness due to heart inflamation for a couple months. It should go away. My dad (80s) became breathless and started having accidents of the number one variety after the vax. But it went away after 6 or 8 weeks.

If your dad is nervous about the covid he should have ivermectin in the house. https://www.amazon.com/ivermectin-horses/s?k=ivermectin+for+horses

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We have cinchona bark in our house, it is a natural anti-malarial + zinc and vitamin D just in case, bought it as soon as the chynah propaganda began and it went out of stock. Wonder if that would work on jabbed people.

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I have thought about the potential of HCQ and other drugs to “neutralize” the vax.

Quinine is pretty simillar and we know it inhibits sars cov 2 pretty well in vitro.

It could potentially block the virus from binding to the cell receptor, which would mean it would prevent that nasty spike protein from binding to the cell receptor.

It could interfere with RNA protein synthesis of the virus which could mean a reduced amount of spike proteins are produced from the vax.

I don’t think lysosome alkalinization would be of much benefit in a vax scenario, if thats how it works on the virus.

But it might have some immunomodulating effects similar to HCQ. Its used to manage Sjorgen’s so it might lower the amount of antibodies you produce. Is that useful? I dunno. Maybe if you had an autoimmune reaction. Just spitballin.

Quinine causes some weird reactions though in like maybe 5% of the populations including a pretty rare thrombotic reaction which would be bad to get simultaneously with the vax. I have a mild allergy to it, Ive discovered while hoarding it for battle with the covid.

[–] • 0 pt

Buy him organic NAC (the expensive glass bottle) and have him take it as a supplement (look it up for its health benefits which are numerous) and tell him to take it. It also breaks down the protein cocktail bullshit (just don’t tell him that)

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we are all dying, soner or later, what matter is the life you live

Want to protect somebody, protect the young, they are the fagile and the one that will lose the most

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we are all dying, soner or later, what matter is the life you live

Fuck that. We are white. We work hard and mitigate risks so we can relax in our golden years. I want to live to a hundred. Team K

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