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He got the Moderna jab. This is someone who had taken the lock down very seriously and I had basically not seen him for a year. His wife has some medical issues that put her at risk so they had lived the life of hermits for the duration. When he was 'fully vaccinated' he started doing things again.

He also has an old knee injury from having twisted it bad about 25 years ago. Typically his knee does not cause him much trouble at all... It is in the category of "I can tell when a storm is coming because my knee aches."

About a week an a half after the second shot he woke up in the morning with his knee swelled up to the size of a basketball. Can't walk. Zero cause or explanation. He has been in a knee brace and hobbling around on crutches for 2 weeks now.

...the really scary thing is his brain refuses to entertain the possibility that the shot and his mysterious knee problem might be related. Last time I saw him he was starting to question me about when am I going to get the shot and "You're not turning into one of those stupid anti-vaxesrs are you?" He said this while standing on crutches for a totally unexplained medical issue that appeared right after the shot. Typically on the subject of the vax I feel that everyone has the right to make their own medical decisions so I don't confront people, but when he started in on me I felt unrestrained. I laid into him a bit and dropped some vax red pills and he was just getting defensive and was regurgitating the propaganda. "The new Indian 'D' variant is more deadly and is spreading!..." When I said "So you don't find it suspicious at all that you have this strange unexplained inflammation problem right after the vax when we KNOW that the spike protein causes inflammation?!?!" This comment hit him like a ton of bricks and he got quiet. It is really clear that he had just never considered the connection.

The lesson for me: We cannot stand by silently and watch our friends and families kill themselves. Non-confrontation and letting people 'make their own choice' is the cowards way out. I am now getting in-your-face confrontational with people. I know I will loose friends but it will be worth it if I am able to save just a few.

He got the Moderna jab. This is someone who had taken the lock down very seriously and I had basically not seen him for a year. His wife has some medical issues that put her at risk so they had lived the life of hermits for the duration. When he was 'fully vaccinated' he started doing things again. He also has an old knee injury from having twisted it bad about 25 years ago. Typically his knee does not cause him much trouble at all... It is in the category of "I can tell when a storm is coming because my knee aches." About a week an a half after the second shot he woke up in the morning with his knee swelled up to the size of a basketball. Can't walk. Zero cause or explanation. He has been in a knee brace and hobbling around on crutches for 2 weeks now. ...the really scary thing is his brain refuses to entertain the possibility that the shot and his mysterious knee problem might be related. Last time I saw him he was starting to question me about when am I going to get the shot and "You're not turning into one of those stupid anti-vaxesrs are you?" He said this while standing on crutches for a totally unexplained medical issue that appeared right after the shot. Typically on the subject of the vax I feel that everyone has the right to make their own medical decisions so I don't confront people, but when he started in on me I felt unrestrained. I laid into him a bit and dropped some vax red pills and he was just getting defensive and was regurgitating the propaganda. "The new Indian 'D' variant is more deadly and is spreading!..." When I said "So you don't find it suspicious at all that you have this strange unexplained inflammation problem right after the vax when we KNOW that the spike protein causes inflammation?!?!" This comment hit him like a ton of bricks and he got quiet. It is really clear that he had just never considered the connection. The lesson for me: We cannot stand by silently and watch our friends and families kill themselves. Non-confrontation and letting people 'make their own choice' is the cowards way out. I am now getting in-your-face confrontational with people. I know I will loose friends but it will be worth it if I am able to save just a few.

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Yeah I harassed and harangued a couple family members.

Dad got both jabs after I gave him a major download of facts, he just wanted to do it because his buddies were doing it. That was it. Im like “you aren’t 16, don’t worry about what Joe is doing” but no, he wanted to be cool and get the jab like Joe. He lived but he had a lot of breathlessness for a few weeks. I talked one fam member out of getting the 2nd jab. Which is the really bad one imo.

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I’m the dad in this scenario however, I did not get the jab. I have informed my family, I told them I will take the shot when it’s not experimental, has been approved and proven safe. Do not take the shot unless you absolutely have too. So far so good. I also said always answer in the positive, if someone asks “did you get the vaccine?” I tell them answer “just got my 2nd Murderna vaccine.”

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If you are an old fogey, may I suggest https://www.amazon.com/ivermectin-horses/s?k=ivermectin+for+horses

I researched this drug alot and I researched this product as well. And I tried it out on myself.

It is a very safe effective drug against covid.

You can use it prophylactically to prevent covid which has been proven in multiple studies to work as well as the vaccines. It also is safer than the vaccine because it has never killed a human on record in 50 years.

Its easy to dispense 4.5 mg doses from this product, which is appropriate as a once weekly preventative dose for people between ~ 120 lbs and 200 lbs or so. This is what my dad did for about 5 months before he took the vax. It would be safe to do for several years.

Or you could just take it if you came down with covid symptoms. There are about 6 to 8 doses of ivermectin for a typical sized adult in a dispenser, and most people will only need to to 3 or 4 doses to prevent the severe phase of the disease if they take it early. My dad has the stuff in case he gets a breakthrough infection. It will work on the flu and cold too.

It is made in canada. Like I said its got a good safety record and only a few mild drug interactions that are basically ignorable. They never see interactions with this stuff clinically.

Heres some information about ivermectin protocols in symptomatic covid patients as well as prophylaxis regimen of the drug. If you want more info on the horse thing specifically and how to use it, just ask. I wouldnt be caught dead without this shit if I got sick. I have high confidence in its effectiveness and safety.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/FLCCC-Protocols-–-A-Guide-to-the-Management-of-COVID-19.pdf

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Is this real? We all are supplementing vitamin D and Zinc. Animal ivermectin? Isn’t it applied after symptoms are present?

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FYI there is no vaccine in existence that "has been approved and proven safe". There are no safe vaccines. It's all bullshit.