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He got the Moderna jab. This is someone who had taken the lock down very seriously and I had basically not seen him for a year. His wife has some medical issues that put her at risk so they had lived the life of hermits for the duration. When he was 'fully vaccinated' he started doing things again.

He also has an old knee injury from having twisted it bad about 25 years ago. Typically his knee does not cause him much trouble at all... It is in the category of "I can tell when a storm is coming because my knee aches."

About a week an a half after the second shot he woke up in the morning with his knee swelled up to the size of a basketball. Can't walk. Zero cause or explanation. He has been in a knee brace and hobbling around on crutches for 2 weeks now.

...the really scary thing is his brain refuses to entertain the possibility that the shot and his mysterious knee problem might be related. Last time I saw him he was starting to question me about when am I going to get the shot and "You're not turning into one of those stupid anti-vaxesrs are you?" He said this while standing on crutches for a totally unexplained medical issue that appeared right after the shot. Typically on the subject of the vax I feel that everyone has the right to make their own medical decisions so I don't confront people, but when he started in on me I felt unrestrained. I laid into him a bit and dropped some vax red pills and he was just getting defensive and was regurgitating the propaganda. "The new Indian 'D' variant is more deadly and is spreading!..." When I said "So you don't find it suspicious at all that you have this strange unexplained inflammation problem right after the vax when we KNOW that the spike protein causes inflammation?!?!" This comment hit him like a ton of bricks and he got quiet. It is really clear that he had just never considered the connection.

The lesson for me: We cannot stand by silently and watch our friends and families kill themselves. Non-confrontation and letting people 'make their own choice' is the cowards way out. I am now getting in-your-face confrontational with people. I know I will loose friends but it will be worth it if I am able to save just a few.

He got the Moderna jab. This is someone who had taken the lock down very seriously and I had basically not seen him for a year. His wife has some medical issues that put her at risk so they had lived the life of hermits for the duration. When he was 'fully vaccinated' he started doing things again. He also has an old knee injury from having twisted it bad about 25 years ago. Typically his knee does not cause him much trouble at all... It is in the category of "I can tell when a storm is coming because my knee aches." About a week an a half after the second shot he woke up in the morning with his knee swelled up to the size of a basketball. Can't walk. Zero cause or explanation. He has been in a knee brace and hobbling around on crutches for 2 weeks now. ...the really scary thing is his brain refuses to entertain the possibility that the shot and his mysterious knee problem might be related. Last time I saw him he was starting to question me about when am I going to get the shot and "You're not turning into one of those stupid anti-vaxesrs are you?" He said this while standing on crutches for a totally unexplained medical issue that appeared right after the shot. Typically on the subject of the vax I feel that everyone has the right to make their own medical decisions so I don't confront people, but when he started in on me I felt unrestrained. I laid into him a bit and dropped some vax red pills and he was just getting defensive and was regurgitating the propaganda. "The new Indian 'D' variant is more deadly and is spreading!..." When I said "So you don't find it suspicious at all that you have this strange unexplained inflammation problem right after the vax when we KNOW that the spike protein causes inflammation?!?!" This comment hit him like a ton of bricks and he got quiet. It is really clear that he had just never considered the connection. The lesson for me: We cannot stand by silently and watch our friends and families kill themselves. Non-confrontation and letting people 'make their own choice' is the cowards way out. I am now getting in-your-face confrontational with people. I know I will loose friends but it will be worth it if I am able to save just a few.

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If you are an old fogey, may I suggest https://www.amazon.com/ivermectin-horses/s?k=ivermectin+for+horses

I researched this drug alot and I researched this product as well. And I tried it out on myself.

It is a very safe effective drug against covid.

You can use it prophylactically to prevent covid which has been proven in multiple studies to work as well as the vaccines. It also is safer than the vaccine because it has never killed a human on record in 50 years.

Its easy to dispense 4.5 mg doses from this product, which is appropriate as a once weekly preventative dose for people between ~ 120 lbs and 200 lbs or so. This is what my dad did for about 5 months before he took the vax. It would be safe to do for several years.

Or you could just take it if you came down with covid symptoms. There are about 6 to 8 doses of ivermectin for a typical sized adult in a dispenser, and most people will only need to to 3 or 4 doses to prevent the severe phase of the disease if they take it early. My dad has the stuff in case he gets a breakthrough infection. It will work on the flu and cold too.

It is made in canada. Like I said its got a good safety record and only a few mild drug interactions that are basically ignorable. They never see interactions with this stuff clinically.

Heres some information about ivermectin protocols in symptomatic covid patients as well as prophylaxis regimen of the drug. If you want more info on the horse thing specifically and how to use it, just ask. I wouldnt be caught dead without this shit if I got sick. I have high confidence in its effectiveness and safety.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/FLCCC-Protocols-–-A-Guide-to-the-Management-of-COVID-19.pdf

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Is this real? We all are supplementing vitamin D and Zinc. Animal ivermectin? Isn’t it applied after symptoms are present?

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So yeah its real. The medicine is exactly the same for horses and people. Its dosed the same, by the pound (or kg) bodyweight at 0.2 mg./kg. or about 4.5 mg / 50lbs. The product makes it easy to dose to the nearest 50 lbs body weight on the applicator (its an oral paste). So for most adults, one dose will be either the 150 lb dose (4.5 mg x 3 - 13.5 mg) or the 200 lb dose (18 mg). The human pills come in 3 and 6 mg doses for comparison. In this product (durvet oral paste) there are about 8 doses for a 150lb individual.

If you get symptomatic covid, you can take one or two doses a day for at least 3 doses. However if you are still feeling very sick you could continue to dose until you got to the end of the tube. ~ half the tube will be enough for many people if you start dosing early after symptoms. Its up to you if you want to be more aggressive and take 2 doses a day, but one will be enough for many.

It is an antiparasitic but also an antiviral and a blood thinner, which is good because covid causes blood clots, but if you are going to use it simultaneously with aspirin be a little conservative.

The drug interactions with this drug are minimal. The link has a list of drug interactions. You really only need to worry about the serious interaction drugs, which seem to be rarely used drugs. Some of the other drug interactions like the statins have never been clinically observed. The drug has been out 50 years. It will be safe to take with the mild/moderate interaction drugs in the doses I have mentioned.

If you were to suddenly slip and swallow the entire tube at once (dose for a 1250 lb horse) you might feel a bit sick for a day, you might have some moderate neurological symptoms like temporary change in vision. You would not die.

For prophylaxis, the recommendations are between 1 and 2 doses a month for long term, which is about a quarter to a half dose a week. That protocol I linked to seems to have changed their recommendation to up to 1 dose a week, which is frankly overkill, unless you are 90 with emphasema in a nursing home. I would shoot for 1/4 to 1/3 dose per week if I was an older person in reasonable health. That is a 50 lb dose (4.5 mg) by the plunger on this product. At that rate, you would complete one tube every 6 months. That is a low cummulative dose that should be safe enough to use for several years. They have used this drug monthly on livestock and also Africans for parasites. Farmers use this product alot on themselves for scabies, because they are familiar with using the drug on their animals.

Here’s some studies on Ivermectin as a prophylactic for covid. https://c19ivermectin.com/#prep

Here’s some guy using it for scabies (video) https://www.maximpulse.com/permethrin/ivermectin-horse-paste-for-scabies.html

Remember if you use it for symptomatic covid, one dose is abt 3 or 4 50lb increments (notches) and you should take at least one dose a day for 3 days.

If you decide to do the prophylactic, just one 50 lb dose (notch) once a week or about 4.5mg

If you think you have been exposed, you can take a half to a full dose before you have symptoms with no penalty.

You could try to get the ivermectin prophylaxis from a doctor or from a mexican pharmacy. It will be a little more expensive. Likewise, you could get prophylactic hydroxychloroquine which they would prescribe at about 400 mg a week, which is a safe low dose that you could take for a long time.

If these regimes dont completely block a covid infection, they will slow down the virus so that you will likely only get a mild case.

Feel free to ask me additional specific questions as I have done quite a bit of research.