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Just like the bank can shut off your account, they want to be able to shut you off from downloading electricity to your vehicle if you aren't in line. Your vehicle will have a unique identifier, and they will be able to see (with AI and blockchain) every last bit of electricity distributed to every uniquely-identifiable vehicle.

The e-fuel station won't even dispense energy to your car unless it identifies your vehicle, which will be tied to your digital ID, and verifies you are a good citizen. All cars will ping the antennas along the roadways, and your travel history will be recorded in a blockchain ledger.

Imagine the level of control they will have being able to track all of this. Are you waking up? The "green" movement is just a fucking distraction.

Just like the bank can shut off your account, they want to be able to shut you off from downloading electricity to your vehicle if you aren't in line. Your vehicle will have a unique identifier, and they will be able to see (with AI and blockchain) every last bit of electricity distributed to every uniquely-identifiable vehicle. The e-fuel station won't even dispense energy to your car unless it identifies your vehicle, which will be tied to your digital ID, and verifies you are a good citizen. All cars will ping the antennas along the roadways, and your travel history will be recorded in a blockchain ledger. Imagine the level of control they will have being able to track all of this. Are you waking up? The "green" movement is just a fucking distraction.

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It's for more control.

You have to understand how much energy daily petroleum is, it's a lot. 390m gallons used every day, and each gallon is 120m Joules. This doesn't include diesel. To substitute that with electricity, would mean huge amounts of electricity being made and also transported. I doubt there will be any upgrade to the grid, until it's too late.

Most people will not be able to afford solar, it's expensive now, and it will get more expensive when the demand skyrockets. Leaving most people to charge their cars quickly at stations, requiring large amounts of current quickly, putting stress on the grid. Yes there will likely be chargers everywhere, but the impact to the grid would be massive. We will likely see brownouts and blackouts occur more often.

Chargers will eventually have a QoS style of delivery, giving energy to government vehicles first, then the most dead batteries, then everyone else. You would need this to prevent everyone from taking maximum charge as the electrical infrastructure in each area cannot handle a dump of charge for everyone at once.

Now with everyone using electricity, if they decide to shut the grid down, literally everything shuts down. There is no movement, most people will rely on the grid to charge the fleet semis to transport goods and their cars.

You think ok well, I have solar and many others. But where are you going to go? If a warehouse has solar on its roof, it will be able to charge one or two semis assuming there is sun. You won't be going to any store or venue as no deliveries will be made.

At least with gas, diesel, EV you have a backup system in case one goes down.

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You have to understand how much energy daily petroleum is, it's a lot. 390m gallons used every day, and each gallon is 120m Joules.

The energy density of a fuel you can't get is irrelevant. I'll say it again because it seems to be hard for some people to understand: It's more difficult to control electricity than gasoline. There's no argument around it. None.

Now with everyone using electricity, if they decide to shut the grid down, literally everything shuts down.

Including gas stations and refineries.

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Gas stations can use diesel or gasoline generators to run their pumps.

It's easy to control electricity, shut the grid down and everything stops moving. You can generate all the solar you want in your backyard, but you'll have no where to go.

And you don't seem to understand how much energy is used to move vehicles daily with gasoline/diesel.

I think you must be a boomer who is not able to see reality and you've invested too much into an EV you can't think logically. You think they are shoving us into EVs for your benefit? Lol.

Muh outlet everywhere, yeah no shit, but if there is no electricity than most people are fucked. With oil and gas, the fuel itself can be used to deliver it. Also fuel is a hedge to electrical failure. Move everything to EVs, now you are dependent on one method.

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Gas stations can use diesel or gasoline generators to run their pumps.

So can people with electric cars.

It's easy to control electricity, shut the grid down and everything stops moving.

Except every motherfucker with a generator or solar panels can make it. How many people can make electricity vs. the number that can make gasoline? Not mention how many people have gasoline outlets in their homes and businesses compared to how many have electricity.

When I say there's no way to win this argument, I mean it. Some things are a logical certainty. The more distributed something is the more difficult it is to control. How many facilities in the United States can make gasoline (including home production)? Now how many can make electricity?

And you don't seem to understand how much energy is used to move vehicles daily with gasoline/diesel.

It's irrelevant to the discussion about what is easier to control.

I think you must be a boomer who is not able to see reality

I think you're in a logical corner and all you've got left is ad hominems.