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They came to visit me about the stuff I posted online, specifically on this website.

They mentioned two things, the first thing was my calls for attacking infrastructure, economic warfare, like with boycotts and the like.

The second part was me saying things like "if the jews in our country died out, the blacks would not be such a threat to us, since most of their hate for us is based on manipulation and misinformation", and other old /b/ edgelord stuff like that.

This got me thinking a lot after they left, because the thing is, I don't really want jews to die out, not here, or anywhere else, it would mean that a lot of good or innocent people would die out along with the ones that concern me, who I honestly don't want to die either, I just want them to stop saying and doing things that hurt people like me, but maybe they don't realize it, either, at east, not most of them.

That got me thinking further, why would I say I wanted jews to die, when I didn't mean it? the obvious answer is that it is for the same reason that some guy wishes for someone else to die in a moment of frustration, only to instantly regret it when that person does indeed die, he never meant it, but it was his emotional state that got him saying things he didn't mean to.

I live around a lot of people from other races that I've occasionally said such things about on here, most of them are people I really don't want anything bad to happen to, but it's usually specific people talking about my people as a group, from a position where they represent themselves as a group, that produces this type of response.

Emotions are at the center of all this, frustration, irritation, anger, and other such things, which leads to us responding and talking about their group in the same way they talked about ours, it's a feedback loop of people saying things they don't mean.

Most likely they are feeling the same way about us the way we are feeling about them, nobody really wants to hurt anyone else, they just don't want themselves to be hurting.

What we need is a dialog, an open conversation, we need to try and empathize with each other, I think we aren't too different in our perspectives and motivations, we are lacking a clear understanding of each other perspectives, and are doing a poor job of giving the other side an adequate picture of how we are seeing things.

A lot of us see the other as someone who just wants to destroy other groups, but the real problem is the issues that exist between their group and ours, everyone is in a tough place, and they all need to understand the struggles of the other side.

Here's what I think is happening: Everyone is doing the best that they can for themselves and those who they care for, everyone is trying to do what's right, and when things feel unfair, emotions cause them to say or do things, in a lot of cases, things they really don't mean.

Perhaps all individuals from all groups of people have nothing but good intentions, and they all just want to live a comfortable life and have those who they love live comfortable lives as well.

Think about the black guy who goes out and throws a white kid off a high place in a mall, he's frustrated and scared, because he thinks white people are conspiring against him, he's lashing out when his emotions get the better of him, he wants others to feel his pain because his life wasn't what he wanted it to be, and the system seems rigged against him and those like him.

White people on sites like these then say that they don't want blacks and jews around, because the media and court systems are heavily influenced by jewish people who are hiding the story and not doing adequate justice to the perpetrator, when the guy clearly targeted the kid for his race alone, but what we want is for violent crimes not to be committed against us just on the basis of our race.

But perhaps the guy has all sorts of issues that we aren't privy to, which might result in a lighter sentence, perhaps the people behind the people behind the censorship of the story are doing it because it doesn't fit with a narrative they buy into on a personal basis because it makes the world make sense to them, a narrative that is just as simplistic as our own.

Perhaps we are all feeling like victims, and want there to be en enemy who is malicious and out to get us, but there really isn't such an enemy, and we are playing the role of the villain for each other by saying things out of emotions that we really don't believe, everyone is scared, because communication has broken down, and we don't want to listen to each other, and even when we do, we have trouble talking about what we truly feel and think about various things.

This isn't just on our side, it's on all of them, it's time to be empathetic, it's time to try and make an effort to understand each other in the most charitable and realistic basis, it's just victims all around, and people who hurt others are most likely either lashing out, or not really realizing how they are hurting others, or perhaps they are seeking justice and feel that there aren't any other options for getting it.

Now, I understand that psychopaths exist among all groups and that there are more common among some groups than others, as is true for any trait and any grouping, by they are rare among all groups except those that specifically select for such a trait.

I also understand that there are a bunch of very wealthy and powerful jews who wish to make white people minorities, and possibly exterminate them, and that their ideology has adherents who also occupy powerful positions, it's funny, but I have issues with trying to understand the mindset behind this.

However, I think a lot of the people who are playing a role in this are not actually interested in doing this to us, they just want a world where everyone has a chance to succeed, in their heart, they want everyone to be happy, and they perceive us as just wanting others to suffer, just as we don't mean it when we speak about other races, when its the issues of a race-related conflict that upsets us, they speak out about us in the same way, they don't really want us to die out, they are just being edgelords.

This is why you often find them being friends or family to people from group that they supposedly hate, because they don't actually hate those groups, thought they may say they do at times, often it's hyperbolic speech. Just like in our case, it's hyperbole, we are saying things we don't mean because we have difficulty expressing the more complex feelings that we have regarding the situations.

We need to become more reasonable, less emotional, and by "we", I'm including myself and the likes of people like the omegle edgelords in it, I just heard my statements the way an outsider hears them, and kind of saw the type of reaction that such people have to such statements, like the reaction of someone to you telling them you hope that they "break a leg", when they come from a place in which such a statement is not used euphemistically. needless to say, I'm cutting that shit out.

I think our world's history is mostly due to people having the best intentions for everyone, and doing what they can to make a better world for everyone, but hurting people as a consequence of doing so, I think that everything, even the worst events of the past from genocide to caste systems, to slavery to occupation and conquest were all motivated by the dream of building a better world for all.

The main issue is that people are different, they are different as individuals and different as groups, and as a result of that, there is inequality, often perceiving the cause of inequality as being due to malice is the catalyst for a lot of conflict between groups of people.

I think we need to recognize that most people want to be good, they want to be good to everyone else, they have those who are closer to their hearts who they wish to put before anyone else.

i think that we can find commonality among those on the sides that oppose us, we can talk about things and ask questions to try and better understand others and how they see things, because I think a lot of the words they are saying, don't actually describe the more complicated and well-meaning opinions that they actually have.

The police were nice enough, one of them left me his card:

D.M. (Darren) Kerchak Constable investigator

National Security Enforcement Section D.Division

P.O. Box 5650, 1091 Portage Avenue Winnipeg, Manitoba, R3C 3K2

Tel: 204-983-6160 Fax: 204-984-1964 Email: <darren.m.kerchak@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

Royal Canadian Mounted Police

They came to visit me about the stuff I posted online, specifically on this website. They mentioned two things, the first thing was my calls for attacking infrastructure, economic warfare, like with boycotts and the like. The second part was me saying things like "if the jews in our country died out, the blacks would not be such a threat to us, since most of their hate for us is based on manipulation and misinformation", and other old /b/ edgelord stuff like that. This got me thinking a lot after they left, because the thing is, I don't really want jews to die out, not here, or anywhere else, it would mean that a lot of good or innocent people would die out along with the ones that concern me, who I honestly don't want to die either, I just want them to stop saying and doing things that hurt people like me, but maybe they don't realize it, either, at east, not most of them. That got me thinking further, why would I say I wanted jews to die, when I didn't mean it? the obvious answer is that it is for the same reason that some guy wishes for someone else to die in a moment of frustration, only to instantly regret it when that person does indeed die, he never meant it, but it was his emotional state that got him saying things he didn't mean to. I live around a lot of people from other races that I've occasionally said such things about on here, most of them are people I really don't want anything bad to happen to, but it's usually specific people talking about my people as a group, from a position where they represent themselves as a group, that produces this type of response. Emotions are at the center of all this, frustration, irritation, anger, and other such things, which leads to us responding and talking about their group in the same way they talked about ours, it's a feedback loop of people saying things they don't mean. Most likely they are feeling the same way about us the way we are feeling about them, nobody really wants to hurt anyone else, they just don't want themselves to be hurting. What we need is a dialog, an open conversation, we need to try and empathize with each other, I think we aren't too different in our perspectives and motivations, we are lacking a clear understanding of each other perspectives, and are doing a poor job of giving the other side an adequate picture of how we are seeing things. A lot of us see the other as someone who just wants to destroy other groups, but the real problem is the issues that exist between their group and ours, everyone is in a tough place, and they all need to understand the struggles of the other side. Here's what I think is happening: Everyone is doing the best that they can for themselves and those who they care for, everyone is trying to do what's right, and when things feel unfair, emotions cause them to say or do things, in a lot of cases, things they really don't mean. Perhaps all individuals from all groups of people have nothing but good intentions, and they all just want to live a comfortable life and have those who they love live comfortable lives as well. Think about the black guy who goes out and throws a white kid off a high place in a mall, he's frustrated and scared, because he thinks white people are conspiring against him, he's lashing out when his emotions get the better of him, he wants others to feel his pain because his life wasn't what he wanted it to be, and the system seems rigged against him and those like him. White people on sites like these then say that they don't want blacks and jews around, because the media and court systems are heavily influenced by jewish people who are hiding the story and not doing adequate justice to the perpetrator, when the guy clearly targeted the kid for his race alone, but what we want is for violent crimes not to be committed against us just on the basis of our race. But perhaps the guy has all sorts of issues that we aren't privy to, which might result in a lighter sentence, perhaps the people behind the people behind the censorship of the story are doing it because it doesn't fit with a narrative they buy into on a personal basis because it makes the world make sense to them, a narrative that is just as simplistic as our own. Perhaps we are all feeling like victims, and want there to be en enemy who is malicious and out to get us, but there really isn't such an enemy, and we are playing the role of the villain for each other by saying things out of emotions that we really don't believe, everyone is scared, because communication has broken down, and we don't want to listen to each other, and even when we do, we have trouble talking about what we truly feel and think about various things. This isn't just on our side, it's on all of them, it's time to be empathetic, it's time to try and make an effort to understand each other in the most charitable and realistic basis, it's just victims all around, and people who hurt others are most likely either lashing out, or not really realizing how they are hurting others, or perhaps they are seeking justice and feel that there aren't any other options for getting it. Now, I understand that psychopaths exist among all groups and that there are more common among some groups than others, as is true for any trait and any grouping, by they are rare among all groups except those that specifically select for such a trait. I also understand that there are a bunch of very wealthy and powerful jews who wish to make white people minorities, and possibly exterminate them, and that their ideology has adherents who also occupy powerful positions, it's funny, but I have issues with trying to understand the mindset behind this. However, I think a lot of the people who are playing a role in this are not actually interested in doing this to us, they just want a world where everyone has a chance to succeed, in their heart, they want everyone to be happy, and they perceive us as just wanting others to suffer, just as we don't mean it when we speak about other races, when its the issues of a race-related conflict that upsets us, they speak out about us in the same way, they don't really want us to die out, they are just being edgelords. This is why you often find them being friends or family to people from group that they supposedly hate, because they don't actually hate those groups, thought they may say they do at times, often it's hyperbolic speech. Just like in our case, it's hyperbole, we are saying things we don't mean because we have difficulty expressing the more complex feelings that we have regarding the situations. We need to become more reasonable, less emotional, and by "we", I'm including myself and the likes of people like the omegle edgelords in it, I just heard my statements the way an outsider hears them, and kind of saw the type of reaction that such people have to such statements, like the reaction of someone to you telling them you hope that they "break a leg", when they come from a place in which such a statement is not used euphemistically. needless to say, I'm cutting that shit out. I think our world's history is mostly due to people having the best intentions for everyone, and doing what they can to make a better world for everyone, but hurting people as a consequence of doing so, I think that everything, even the worst events of the past from genocide to caste systems, to slavery to occupation and conquest were all motivated by the dream of building a better world for all. The main issue is that people are different, they are different as individuals and different as groups, and as a result of that, there is inequality, often perceiving the cause of inequality as being due to malice is the catalyst for a lot of conflict between groups of people. I think we need to recognize that most people want to be good, they want to be good to everyone else, they have those who are closer to their hearts who they wish to put before anyone else. i think that we can find commonality among those on the sides that oppose us, we can talk about things and ask questions to try and better understand others and how they see things, because I think a lot of the words they are saying, don't actually describe the more complicated and well-meaning opinions that they actually have. The police were nice enough, one of them left me his card: D.M. (Darren) Kerchak Constable investigator National Security Enforcement Section D.Division P.O. Box 5650, 1091 Portage Avenue Winnipeg, Manitoba, R3C 3K2 Tel: 204-983-6160 Fax: 204-984-1964 Email: darren.m.kerchak@rcmp-grc.gc.ca Royal Canadian Mounted Police

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[–] • 20 pts

Well boys, it looks like we made the big leagues!

And to all of the glowies reading this, because now we know for sure that they do, you can suck my cock.

[–] • 19 pts

I don't really want jews to die out, not here, or anywhere else,

The police really put the fear of God into you, didn't they?

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Well, yeah, but still, I live around a lot of non-whites, and have had some bad experiences, but most of them were positive or neutral, today a black guy came to my house and gave me some twinkies for free, just because.

I think we've all had encounters with people of other races who have done well by us, or at least never done us wrong, there's a lot of good ones out there, and the not good ones, I think a lot of them aren't as malicious as the worst of them.

Remember that it was a jew doctor that got GLR interned in a psych ward, but it was also another jew doc who got him out, it was a "negro nurse" who stuck him with a syringe full of vitamins in the middle of the night, but it was also a group of negroes in his therapy groups who vouched for his release.

What I'm saying is, while I do recognize racial differences on average or by the mean, I also recognize that most people in various racial groups aren't bad people, in 2014, black males made up 6% of the us population, but people from that group did 50-60% of the crime, however, it's even less who are responsible for it, only a minority of that 6% had committed any crimes at all.

It's kinda like that 1% vs the 99% meme during occupy wall street, it's pretty much the 1% of people who have psychological problems like low IQ's and personality disorders (like anti-social personality disorder) who are doing this.

As for jews in particular, I can count quite a few jews who I know even poalsters don't hate, these are the jews who do not hate white people and do not conspire to put forward any policy or ideology that hurts us, and we can respect those types.

The truth is, it's not any particular group of people that we hate, but anyone who threatens our people that we despise, including traitor whites who are like that, and we could even be fine with them so long as they leave us the hell alone, it's because they pose a threat that we fight them, and if that is the case, then it is the threat which we fight, not the people who bear it.

If some anti-white black guy came up to me and was like "you know, I was wrong to hate you, I'm sorry about that, and will do what I can to help undo the damage i may have caused", I would be like "thanks, I appreciate it" and be willing to forgive him, I may need him to earn my trust and prove he's genuine, but such is the case with all redemption stories, and I'd welcome having defeated an enemy by making him no longer my enemy.

[–] • 5 pts

today a black guy came to my house and gave me some twinkies for free, just because.

Some pitbulls never attack, either. You gonna keep a couple million of them around and let your kids play with them? Everything in life is a tradeoff. Sure there are black guys like Ben Carson and Thomas Sowell, but for every one of them there are one million car-jacking, burglarizing, murderous dirt bags. The benefit doesn't outweigh the cost. That means black people are a net negative.

There are also car-jacking, burglarizing, murderous dirt bags that are white. The difference is in proportions. White people are, on balance, a net benefit in the community.

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I think it's just a few black males among the 6% who do all the crime.

Just like it's a few white makes who do all the crime pn our end.

The percentage of the populations committing the crimes are just bigger in the first, and the ones in that group do a lot more of them.

Most black males are law abiding, they are more likely to be criminals, and that why prisons are full of them, but it's still a minority of them doing criminal acts. Even as someone who who knows the stats, I can day this with some degree of confidence.

It's a bayesian thing.

Blacks commit more crimes comparatively to Whites, due to there being a higher frequency of genes among the black population that predisposes the possessor to criminality, but even so, most blacks don't commit crimes.

[–] • 1 pt

Lol, Canadian cops don't need guns to deal with White partisans- they just need to show up at your house and question your internet habits, and you'll become a civic nationalist within hours.

You'll probably spend more time pondering this encounter, and by tomorrow you'll wake up and think "Y'know, maybe communism is the solution...." and then jump on poal to write a post telling us how wrong you were for being critical of communism in the past.

It's almost like they replaced you with a different person- threw a bag over your head and disappeared you, threw some homeless guy into your house and said "You're paradoxical003 now, go apologize for being racist online", and here we are. So bizarre.

[–] • 0 pt

All ‘murkan’ts are total badasses until a nigger cop looks at them cross-eyed.

[–] • 0 pt

That post went directly over your head.

[–] [deleted] • 18 pts

All kikes need to be exterminated.

See you soon, feds.

[–] • 1 pt

wrong. save a few to be labrats and stop abusing apes/mice/whatever.

[–] • 6 pts

I'm surprised the Canadian police stopped buttfucking eachother long enough to actually do something. Then again, they are good at harrassing innocent civilians so it's easy for them. Either way they can suck a tailpipe.

[–] • 7 pts (edited )

they like taking down pastors in the middle of high capacity roads because he dared to call them out as the fascist scumbags they are.

that shit is the exact same humiliation tactics nazis used, only instead of playing with the locks of hairs on jews theyre surrounding innocent people slamming them to the ground and in our case forcing muzzles on them in front of news cameras that just happen to magically be where the arrest is being made.

that tells you all you need to know.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Those happened kilometers away from eachother. I think its a long ass 11 hour drive from Winnipeg to Edmonton.

[–] • 0 pt

Still the same nation with the same laws.

Its like saying the feds grabbed up a preacher in DC, and then a FED showed up at this guys house in Montana...

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts

It's funny that these alphabet soup agents have to read our posts. There are only two types of agents. Those that know the truth and those that like to keep the jew dicks in their ears. How can you be exposed to the truth over and over, then come to the conclusion that it must be stopped? They are either the most red pilled hypocrites or low IQ niggers and women that do what they are told without question.

[–] • 1 pt

I like to think we are also redpilling the fuck out of a few Feds

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[–] • 4 pts

You poor leaf. I didn't read your whole shitpost but got in a few paragraphs.

You need to move your ass out of shit sticks Canada. Your nation is run by Castro's son, and you wonder why the cops are knocking on your door.

Just because you wish someone, or a group of people were dead, doesn't mean you are going to make them dead. If that were the case, the family of every murder victim would be in prison right now.

Boycotting is the way, if everyone was on board. We could change the world by carefully choosing what not to buy. But people are stupid and will line up to spend money on fast food poison, amongst other things.

I feel for you bro. I suggest getting a few barky dogs for your front and back yard. Don't get too attached because they will be shot when the NWO stormtroopers show up. They should buy you enough time to do something.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I'm loving in an apartment that doesn't allow pets

[–] • 3 pts

GOTTA GAS EM ALL

TOTAL KIKE AND NIGGER DEATH IS THE ONLY SOLUTION

[–] • 3 pts

Do you bareback, no VPN or TOR?

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts (edited )

I also posted my contact info on here, and called them IRL, so maybe I want to be found.

[–] • 6 pts

Don't know if you got big balls or are fucking retarded.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt (edited )

I can afford to do dumb shit like this because I'm an autistic NEET with really nothing to lose, this is a bit of excitement for me, and it is enlightening as an experience as well, from rock-bottom, there's a lot of places you can go. I've made some contacts that I can now flex a bit to make some changes in society, and I plan on abusing them to the fullest extent possible, I'm pretty happy about it all TBH. I'm a fool, doing the foolish thing so that you don't have to, exploring the dangerous zones so that I can give you a full tour of it, I am a sacrificial sheep, that is my contribution. Even if I get v& this account will keep on posting, because it's only in my name, but is being used jointly by my matrix group. Basically I have nothing to offer but my body, so i give that to the cause.

[–] • 0 pt

You think (((they))) are totally flummoxed by VPN or Tor? lul

[–] • 2 pts

Regardless of what you might think decrypting https isn't some everyday thing, him giving away contact info is what made the visit happen.

[–] • 0 pt

I agree he was retarded. I wonder if he still is?

[–] • 0 pt

No, and I have posted about that many times. Local dicks like the ones that visited this guy are, but almost all the exit nodes are owned by the soups. But it if they admit that it breaks a narrative so they won't, they'll do parallel construction to bust you if you get too rowdy but if you're not breaking any laws assholes like these are clueless. VPN into TOR are plausible deniability for normies only.

[–] • 2 pts

I appreciate your balanced and nuanced take, and I wholeheartedly agree. Also Canada's police are a bunch of cucks, they're fighting for their own evaporating pension.

[–] • 2 pts

Maybe if we all sing kumbayah and roast smores together it'll all come ok?

Back in reality whites have spent several decades studiously exterminating any hint of prejudice and racial favouritism out of our society. No culture on earth has ever been more anti-racist than this. And yet the result wasn't everyone calming down and getting along, it was jews amping up the anti-white hatred until we're seeing anti-white pogroms in white majority countries.

Multiculturalism does not work.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

The problem is being submissive, not assertive.

I'm.not talking about becoming anti racist, we won't be dropping any of our points, that we had suffered in the past and continue to do so in the present, that the racial differences in ability are real, genetic, and the true cause of inequality, that there are a bunch of jews who feel as if we should be wiped out (and that the claims of holocaust genocide was slander against us), the whole point is to continue to push these positions.

What I'm talking about trying to end the fear people have towards us, and develop sympathy or understanding in those who oppose us towards ourselves and the people we fight for.

Show them we aren't monsters, and try to reach them on the assumption that the idea we have of them, formed from their worst quotes, are just as founded in reality as the idea that they have about us, formed from our worst quotes.

Because I think that the fact that they see us as a threat, because we say things out of anger that literally taken indicate that we are a threat.

And I think that maybe the same kinds of quotes among the enemy with regards to our people are just as accurate in describing the actual positions of the majority of the enemy as our similar quotes on the opposite side are of the position that we hold.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

You're not getting what I'm saying here. My goal remains the same, my factual beliefs regarding observable facts remain unchanged, but my opinions on what is going on in the minds of us and them is the thing I've kind of reflected upon and came to a conclusion regarding.

I'm saying I've thought about things a bit, and realized one thing.

You claim that you are scared of them because they are a threat to your people, and that they are out to destroy you, they say the same about you.

In both cases stress and fear are preventing communication, because alternative motivations are suspected.

In both sides use talk of hating the other group or wishing a misfortune upon them, which is likely expressing frustration at certain individuals within that group who are causing issues for you and your desired goals, as proof of this fear being justified.

Maybe both of you are in a similar situation, maybe the issue is that both of you have some pieces of truth and some misconceptions as well, maybe the problems of the world are caused by people with good intent and misconceptions that lead to actions that turn out badly in some way for some people.

I'm not centrist or civnat, but I can see the possibility that both the far right and mainstream left are majority composed of people who are scared of the other side, and that at the very least the left are misinformed, we need to allay the fears of the other side in order to open them up to communication, and from there, we might be able to engage in negotiations.

For me, saying things like the types of things that got me in trouble were just a means of me showing how I understood the feelings of the others on here, it was a lot of talk about things that it would be understood that no one was seriously considering, but for them, it was a real and terrifying statement of intent or incitement of others into performing these acts.

If I was being misunderstood by them and it was producing a fear in them of a threat that I did not pose, and that the people I was talking to did not pose, then then maybe there are those who are like us in this respect on the other end of the pond.

I want to know the truth, and I want others to know it as well.

I think my biggest problem is that when I see people not having a good time, I want to help them, and I especially want to help those who aren't being attended to enough by others, I think you guys are getting a bad reputation and that you have legitimate grievances, now im trying to reevaluate the whole situation.

I'm just really stressed out, give me some time to think.

[–] • 0 pt

Some people, cultures and ideologies cannot be negotiated or reasoned with. Narcissists will always manipulate and abuse those around them to remain in control. They will lle, gaslight, demonise and stir up conflict, then they will rewrite history to make themselves the good guy. They will do all of this firmly believing they are right and they were always at war with eastasia. Anyone saying otherwise must be destroyed.

You cannot negotiate with a delusional person or group and expect to produce peace from common understanding. The only solution is to distance yourself from them and leave them to their delusions. Any openness or attempt to compromise will be recognised as a weakness and used against you.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Lets put down what we want and what they at least nominally claim to want, then we can look at the essentials of the goals on each side, and try to have a conversation across the aisle to see whether there is a way that both sides could get what they want.

Think about what they see when they read your comments, they see you calling for blood, and take that literally as your intent, to them, that is your central goal, everything else is the means to that as your end. You seem to have a strikingly similar opinion of them.

But the true essence of your position is the removal of threats to your people, and theirs is the removal of threats to their own, both you and they claim to feel like their people are subject to injustices in this society, and seek to correct those injustices, both feel like the other side is ignorant and uncaring about the hardships their side experiences.

Even if it's on the surface, and it's only a possibility that there can be some discussion, I think we could put out that we aren't a threat, and that we honestly care for our people instead of wishing harm on others, and that our people have legitimate and genuine grievances to address. This is still us doing advocacy, but we are making a show of trying to address miscommunication and misconceptions between us and them

even if it's as you say, and we don't get a dialog with them, the fact that we made a show of the attempt means that the third parties looking on will see us as the more reasonable side of the debate, that alone could shake up worldviews and get us new recruits.

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